#685 - Your Listings But Smarter: AI-Ready Content That Converts
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#685 - Your Listings But Smarter: AI-Ready Content That Converts

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"Boost your Amazon listings' conversion rates by using AI tools like Rufus to transform customer questions into compelling listing copy, aligning keywords with modern shopper behavior, as shared by Ritu Java."

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#685 - Your Listings But Smarter: AI-Ready Content That Converts Speaker 1: In this episode, we explore how to create AI-powered product listings that don't just rank, they convert. You'll hear expert strategies from Ritu Java on using Amazon's Rufus to uncover real customer questions and turn them into intentional high-converting listing copy. Now, we're not ditching keywords, but we're making them smarter and more aligned with how today's shoppers actually search, ask, and buy. So let's dive in. Unknown Speaker: How cool is that? Pretty cool, I think. Hello, everybody, and welcome to another episode of the Serious Sellers Podcast by Helium 10. I'm your host, Bradley Sutton, and this is a show that's completely BS-free, unscripted and unrehearsed, organic conversation about serious strategies for serious sellers of any level in the e-commerce world. Speaker 1: We actually have an amazing presentation for you today. It's from one of the smartest people in our entire Amazon industry. Basically, she's going to be sharing some kind of advanced strategies here with AI and your listing optimization. Her name is Ritu Java. She's going to be talking about how to optimize your listings using questions from Rufus and just some AI strategies to help you beat the competition with this new AI e-commerce landscape. I'm going to go ahead and bring her on. Hello, Ritu. Speaker 2: Hey, Carrie. Good to be here. Speaker 1: How's it going? Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited. So today I will be talking about using AI for creating content and listings that convert. In this AI era, and I'm going to give you a little bit of the progression and the background of how AI has kind of made its way into Amazon and how people's behaviors are shifting in the way they search on Amazon. That's actually a very important thing to understand. And while you might all kind of assume that yes, you know, it's happening, the The way we're interacting with all kinds of LLMs, you know, has become pretty mainstream. But I really want to talk about the specifics of how that is happening and how it's unfolding on Amazon. Right. So first, just a quick introduction. So my name is Ritu Java, and I am the CEO of PPC Ninja. So we founded this company seven years ago. We're an agency so we take care of Amazon advertising for 7, 8 and 9 figure brands. We help with Amazon advertising as well as Walmart and DSP and a little bit of Google as well where Google traffic goes to Amazon, that side of things. I personally have 15 plus years of experience in the e-commerce space. I started my first business on Etsy. That was 15 years ago. Since then, I've trained thousands of people on Amazon advertising. I used to run BBC mastermind groups. These were four-week groups where we had an intimate group and it would be live. Stuff like that. Super fun times diving into PPC stuff and nerding it out. This is a little outdated, but I also run an AI for e-commerce newsletter. Subscriber rate has been ticking up quite a bit and I think at this point I'm in 3,200 subscribers. It's grown quite a bit since the last time I Let's talk about our topic today, which is to do with AI-ready listings. I just want to mention that things are changing quite fast, quite rapidly, and those people who are aware of the shift that's happened and is happening are the ones that will benefit from this discussion as well as Anything else that unfolds on Amazon going forward? People are shifting from typing in keywords that are very hard to come up with to conversations. You probably must have seen this yourself. There was a time when you would just go on Google and you would say, okay, just Google it. Or if you want to find out something about something, you would just say, Google it. Whereas now that's shifted to just go to ChatGPT or ask Claude or ask Perplexity. So that shift has already happened in the way we do search. Amazon is not free from that either because where we used to type keywords as shoppers, we would really have to think of what words to use so that we get the right products to show up. Well, now that's been replaced with conversations with Rufus, this cute little dog that I think belonged to one of the employees. Back in the day, everything is named after Rufus. There's a Rufus building, there's a project, it's called the Rufus Project. Anyway, we all know that Rufus is now pretty mainstream. It's made its way into a lot of places on Amazon. The shift is real. And I know that people ask questions like, but how many people use Rufus? Or has anyone even noticed Rufus? The thing is, it is getting noticed. And the thing is that Amazon is also committed to making this mainstream. Just to give you some very simple examples of what a regular keyword search looks like versus what a Rufus search looks like. This is real because I myself was searching for this product. I was looking for salty protein snacks because protein snacks these days, they're kind of sweet. First of all, protein in that format, it tastes disgusting. I'm going to mask its taste with sugar or whatever. I don't like it. I don't like the sugary taste, so I was looking for salty protein snacks and I specifically said with no added sugar. Now, what does the regular search look like? It actually still gave me sugary protein snacks. These were the top three results for the keyword search, for the same exact keyword search. And I was like, well, that doesn't look right. I mean, this is not what I wanted. I mean, it did have a little bit of like salt sprinkled on it, like chocolate with, you know, some amount of saltiness, but that's not what I was looking for. I was looking for a salty protein snack. So then I went to Rufus and then I searched the same exact thing there. And there it completely understood and it kind of, you know, got my point. Like I really wanted something salty. So it gave me these These salty snacks, beef jerky, et cetera, edamame. And when I looked at the descriptions, literally it actually was salty with no sugar added. So this was a win for Rufus. And I think there's going to be more and more people realizing that, oh, Rufus is better. Like Rufus understands more than just a regular A9 search does. So that's one thing. It's understanding what you want as a shopper. There's also this thing called contextual continuity. I mean, I probably might have made this term up, but What I mean with that is that when you're searching on Rufus, you can actually follow up on the response that it gives you. So it's not just a one-time search. You can actually ask follow-up questions. Just to give you an example, I was looking for a 5x3 storage shed. Unknown Speaker: If you want to be able to sync your listings that you create in Helium 10 to your Amazon account in one click, including being able to sync subject matter, which you're not able to even edit now in most listings on Amazon, you're going to want to use Helium 10 Listing Builder. Make sure to find out how to use Listing Builder by going to h10.me forward slash Listing Builder. That's h10.me forward slash Listing Builder. Speaker 2: So this was my first question. I asked for outdoor shed under 200, right? And then it gave me something which was like this, right? And it was kind of flimsy for a $200 product. It did give me something pretty flimsy. And then I said something more sturdy question mark. Now this is continuity, right? Because I am not repeating myself. I am just adding something more in a conversation, in a chat, right? So then I said something more sturdy. So it gives me something more sturdy, but then it kind of goes above my budget of $279. So I said, is that the cheapest option? Like I'm like digging in, I'm saying, hey, can you, you know, are you sure this is the cheapest option? You don't have anything better than that. And so then it gave me this result, which is like for the outdoors, it is within $200 and it is sturdy. It says heavy duty. So you see how a simple query became such a nice conversation that led to the product that I will probably purchase, right? So something like this is not possible with your regular search and shoppers are going to realize this sooner rather than later. It's going to happen. Now, again, for those people, the naysayers or people who say, oh, nobody's using Rufus, blah, blah, blah. Max Sinclair did a little bit of analysis last year of how many searches go through Rufus. And he estimated based on AWS, I don't know, he's a whiz. So he figured out something and he kind of guesstimated that 13.7% of all Amazon searches were going through Rufus and that number is just going to go up and up and up. But then look at these like investments, the heavy, heavy, heavy investments that Amazon is making on Rufus and how they're quickly expanding from US to other markets. And this is becoming mainstream. Now, it's just a matter of time before Rufus actually replaces the search bar is what I think. Now, what makes Rufus such a game changer for product discovery? Well, first of all, it can answer any questions about the product conversationally, right? So it knows everything about your products, the title of the bullet points, the A-plus content, the backend keywords, the product attributes, the questions that have been asked, the reviews that have been placed on everything, right? All of that is picked up by Rufus. So there's no hiding. You can't hide because what's there is available. You can't mask it by trying to push keyword ranking or trying to get up somehow by stuffing your listings with keywords, etc. You've got to have a more holistic approach to how you improve and make your listing very, very Rufus friendly or AI friendly. So the other thing that's happening is that Rufus understands the visuals, which is a new thing because previously, the only space or area that we had to play with SEO was our actual title and bullet points and the actual textual, you know, content, right? Whereas now, Rufus understands your visuals, it understands if there is You know, like a gamer sitting in a game room, it understands that. Or if there's a person sitting in a desk environment in an office, it understands that. So it can understand visuals, and it can read text on images. It can also understand image collections. Andrew Bell has been talking about this stuff, about how Rufus can understand the whole set, like your entire gallery, it can understand that whole thing. So the more variations of use cases you can introduce in your images, the better, because all of those are getting picked up and being indexed. Now, it also provides recommendations for complex needs. You just saw an example from me. It had to be a sturdy product. It had to be under 200, and it had to be something for outdoors, et cetera. So those are complex needs that cannot be described through just keywords. It gives you trusted guidance because it shares reviews You know, openly, it's not going to mince words. If there's one negative listing, negative review on your listing, then unfortunately, it will get picked up by Rufus. So you've got to figure out ways and I'll talk about some of those ways towards the end of like how we can, you know, tackle that and how we can proactively address negative reviews that Rufus is so openly sharing with shoppers. It can dig deep into your product questions. It can show you the latest updates and comparisons. So for example, you can ask questions like, how does this product compare with that other product? You can also compare across brands. You can say, what about that product from that other brand? How does this compare with that? And it's going to do a comparison. So any kind of extra information that you can provide on your listings that feeds these sorts of things like updates or comparisons, it'll be good for you to control the narrative by proactively providing information that Rufus can start indexing for. And then We know that it is instant action like it's like you're just having a conversation in real time almost. And it can provide price history. You can ask for price history. It engages in real-time conversation. And it's also surfacing sponsored brand video ads. So if you don't have video ads, I would highly recommend that you start creating those because some of those video pieces get shown as part of the answer. And that's a really good thing. So we'll talk a little bit about all of these things. Just an example of a complex query from a person in Florida who wanted a pool umbrella and she said pool umbrella for Florida and this actually did a great job about understanding the geographical location and the kind of weather conditions like humidity, wind resistance and suggested top rated option. For her specific need, which is unbelievable because you can't do that with just keywords. Okay, and then there's more, right? So it's not just Rufus. AI is going to infiltrate every aspect of Amazon, right? And in fact, it's already doing it. There's AI shopping guides now. There's interest AI. I don't know if you've seen this. Or the AI driven size recommendations. So Amazon is really, really investing heavily. Some of these Amazon features or products are going to work in conjunction with Rufus. So like they've already said that your AI shopping guide will work with Rufus. And Alexa will work with Rufus. So Alexa Plus, which is new, it's coming out, and I think it's going to cost like $9.99 per household, is this new thing where you can have conversations with it so that it can surface products that meet certain needs. Like, hey, it's Carla's birthday this weekend. What's a good fit for her? So they know who Carla is. They know it's her 30th birthday and they will find something that is appropriate for So let's talk a little bit about where Rufus lives. Where can you find Rufus? So Rufus basically lives everywhere that shoppers ask questions. So if you start typing anything in the search bar, you will see an autocomplete box that drops down. And now you'll also start seeing, actually, this is not new. I'm sure you've noticed it. A lot of people haven't, but I just point, I like to point it out that these little things at the bottom, these are questions from Rufus, right? Rufus likes to talk in Q&A format, like prompt and response format. So these are some Rufus placements. Then you have just the regular Rufus box that shows up at the bottom left of your screen. In some markets, the box hasn't appeared on desktop yet, so you'll have to go through mobile. That's the only way to access Rufus. For example, I was trying in Canada because I'm from Canada. I'm not seeing Rufus in the desktop version, but I do see it in my mobile version. So that's Rufus there. And then we've also started seeing Rufus kind of spread out everywhere. Like for example, just below the image, the main image, you'll see some questions, like two or three questions. And I've also seen it in one of the The Shopping Cart Flows, where you can potentially have a final question before you make your final purchase. That's also another place that Rufus is beginning to show up. And so it's important to start paying attention to what questions are showing up on your listings because that gives you huge amounts of clues as to what shoppers are asking on your listing. And because Rufus knows everything about everything on your listing, it's important to pay attention to those questions and then start to kind of try and address those. Now let's talk about what is running Rufus. What is the brains behind Rufus? It's this white paper called COSMO and COSMO stands for Large-scale E-commerce Common Sense Knowledge Generation and Serving System at Amazon and there's a bunch of smart people's names here who actually wrote this white paper and they have described in it quite a lot of detail of like what are the algorithmic or AI based models behind behind this search search engine, the new search engine that is kind of replacing the old system of You know, a nine or just like matching words to words kind of thing. This is a new way of discovering products through understanding what is the shopper actually needing, like it's literally trying to understand or decipher what the shopper actually wants. And this makes for better matches, right? Because otherwise we often find You know, search results on Amazon being off like sometimes the video ads are off like you you ask for something and you get something totally different. You're like what? I didn't ask for this or you ask for a specific color, it gives you a different color. So those kinds of things could have been gamed in the past because you could insert the wrong keyword somewhere and somehow fool shoppers. No longer. No longer. With Cosmo and Rufus, you won't be able to do that because it understands your listing holistically and not just by the small set of keywords that you want to showcase or you want it to believe that it is. Let's look at exactly how this kind of search query matching happens with Cosmo. I want to share that there's four major upgrades to the way search is happening nowadays with Rufus. So first of all, the first point or the first upgrade is with word meanings, right? This has always been around, like word meanings, you match a search query with a keyword, right? That's how we've kind of seen it over the years. Now, when you say word meanings, it basically knows what you actually typed and it maps it to like synonyms or very close word meanings. In both the text and the images. Previously it was only text, now it's text and images, right? So this part has got a certain amount of an upgrade, but it's not a huge upgrade. It's still word meaning match, right? Word match. For example, cozy blanket, snug blanket, the synonyms. So those will fly. The second one is semantics. Semantics is where it understands how words connect up with each other because it recognizes the meaning based on phrases and categories and use case context. For example, if someone says cozy blanket, it basically can match to a warm winter blanket because it is semantically the same thing. It means the same thing. Then you have inference. These are words that you didn't say out loud or a shopper didn't say out loud. So it's filling in the blanks on what they actually meant. So let's say, for example, someone types Netflix night setup or something and it could match to something like a cozy blanket. So it's inferring stuff that you didn't say. Then there is personalization, which is probably one of the most important features or attributes of how this whole query matching is going, where it learns your patterns as a shopper and it adapts and it gives you results that are more applicable to you as a person and whatever you've done on the Amazon platform thus far. For example, If there's like a mom who's looking for a cozy blanket, she might see something that is more soft, pastel, floral, etc. Whereas if there's a bachelor who's looking for like a game night setup or a Netflix setup or whatever, they'll see like dark shades, you know, for like a man cave or whatever. And so there's those differences that start to pop up with search results. So then what happens to ranking when every person will start getting results that are customized to them? Then how can we get into this world or how do we understand this world where ranking could be different for different people, right? For you, the number one product that shows up is maybe the black throw. And for me, it could be the floral one, right? So there's two different ranks for two different people. And so there's a lot of challenges. I'm up ahead with understanding ranking, understanding how we can kind of continue to show up more visibly in different places on Amazon. I'll give you some more examples. This is just going to help you understand a little bit more so that you can start to customize your listings accordingly. Again, I'm going to take all four of those word meanings, semantics, inference, and personalization and show you some more examples. So, for example, this keyword, odor-resistant towel, this word can be matched to this listing and actually Rufus did. And the reason why it matched it is because in the product description, it has this term, odor-resistant. So, there's odor-resistant, there's odor-resistant. Other than this, there was no other mention of odor-resistant. Anywhere else on the listing except in the product information section. So yeah, that's a match. Then people might start typing things like towel that doesn't stink. So when you say towel that doesn't stink, obviously those words do not exist on regular listings. You don't write towel that doesn't stink. So what does that match to? Well, it's matching to the, you know, it says this, these microfiber towels are designed to resist odor and stay fresh. So it's basically mapped the semantics or the, you know, the association of what the customer wants with the context and of what what's written on the listing. Here's another example of inference. Inference is stuff that they did not say. When you ask, choose for pregnant women, it shows you a product like this where on this product, if you go and check, there's no mention of pregnant women, none of that is mentioned, but we know from the attributes of what pregnant women want. They would want something that's flat, that's open, that's sturdy, that's non-slip and so on, comfortable, etc. So that's how these inferences get matched based on what was typed in. Here's another example of inference where let's say a college student is looking for a microwave for dorm room and she's not saying anything more than that in terms of like, Whether it should be small or cute or any of that. But in her mind, she's got this image of how her nice little dorm room is going to look like. And what props up is something like this, not like our standard black, you know, large, large size microwave, they get something that is perfect for dorm room and what goes with dorm decor. And then there's personalization, like I said, so when you type a word like noise cancellation headphones, You could see different results. For example, a gamer might see something like this, and a commuter might see something like this. Both are noise cancellation headphones, but because Amazon knows who you are, pretty much, they know more about us than we do, honestly, at this point. They know exactly what kind of stuff you buy. So they've classified you and categorized you and profiled you and they know what you will want. And that's where things start to get interesting because the ranking starts to change. So the moral of the story is that brands that are not optimizing for conversational e-commerce will lose out, right? And so that's a big broad sweeping statement, but I want to kind of break it down a little bit and start to give you some tips on how to get indexed for Rufus, how to influence Rufus. It may not happen overnight. In fact, the speed of Rufus picking up changes is much, much, much, much slower than a regular SEO indexation scenario. So in the past, we were able to kind of insert a new keyword or drop a keyword and then Within an hour, you could run a Helium 10 indexation check and you would know whether it is indexed or not for that and there's so many indexation tests. Whereas for Rufus, this process is going to be extremely slow because Rufus relies on real engagement with your listing and therefore you've got to have patience, number one, and number two, you've got to start early because it will take time, right? So for all those people who think that it's a waste of time to invest in Today we're going to talk about AI-ready listings for Rufus. I'm just telling you that because it's going to take so much time, you want to get ahead of it and not just take your time and do it when the cold rush starts and people start to go and try to, when they start to index and when Rufus starts to recommend them over you. So that's too late. So you start now. So how do you start? Well, first of all, like I said, you need to understand what Rufus is showing on On your listing, what are the questions that it is showing up by default? So let's do a little exercise here. I have this product and I'm going to run Rufus here and I'm going to try and figure out what do people say, what are the typical questions that people ask because I want to extract those questions and then I want to do stuff with them. So what I'll do is first of all, I'll go to Rufus and I'll see what Rufus is asking. What are the main ingredients? Does it contain allergies? Any common allergy, what do customers say, is this snack vegan, kids eat, blah, blah, blah. Now, this is like about six or seven questions. Typically, it gives you five to six to seven questions in the first flush. Then when you start clicking on all of them, you can ask more questions or it'll auto-populate more prompts for you to go click and ask and click and ask. Now that's a lot of work for someone who's just wanting those questions. So we actually built a little tool that will do it for you. So this little tool actually will, if you just say auto-click 15, basically it'll go 15 times and keep auto-clicking each of the prompts. And I'm hands-free right now, so it's just doing its job in the back end. And it's just opening up all the... And I'm going to be answering the questions and extracting all the answers because I want to know what answers it's giving because that's where my clues lie, right? I want to see what I can do with those responses and see if I can influence them. So anyway, while it's doing that thing, I'll show you the second tool that kind of goes with it, which is this one, where I want to extract the Q&A that it's doing right now. So if I just click on it midway, it's probably done three or four. So yeah, it's copied six questions and six answers right now, right? So this goes into your clipboard memory and then you can copy it anywhere into a notepad or whatever and then analyze it and so on. So I'll let this keep going. I just want to share that I can give you that tool if you're interested in using it. It's free. It's an extraction and so on. Go ahead and take a screenshot, photo, whatever you want to do. That's the tool. It has all the instructions of how to use it. I basically showed it to you, but you can actually go in and watch a little video inside in case you forget these instructions, and then you're able to run your own Rufus analysis. Okay, the other thing I want to say is that because synonyms, you know, variations of your words are going to be so important, don't forget to use Magnet to kind of expand and find new words, right? Because you don't want to just stick with the most or the highest search volume words because that's not going to be able to cover all the needs. The only reason why those were high search volume is because, well, actually, there could be a few reasons, but that, you know, those words represent the majority of people and how they express those words like plush blanket might be maybe a majority of people use that term. But given that people are now getting more comfortable with having a chat mindset, like they might express it in other ways, you know, they're beginning to be loose about the words that or the choice of words. That they used to describe certain products. In fact, they might have in the past been forced to use a term like plush blanket, whereas that's not what they meant. They actually meant something quite different, but they had to use it because that was the only way to get the search engine to show them some results. Now it's going to be different, right? So therefore, the more keywords you can expand out to the better, right? And that's where Magnet comes in. You can really expand. So as you can see, plush blanket opened up quite a few Keywords like throw blanket, college dorm, I would probably delete the deals thingy, but anyway, college dorm, essentials, dorm. So a lot of dorm stuff came up, mother, mom gifts came up, travel blanket. Now, only if your product is a travel blanket, it's light and so on. Otherwise, you could ignore that. Picnic blanket, blankets, queen-size throw blanket for couch, pink throw blanket, et cetera. So expand out as many as you can and then use a combination of AI and Magnet to consolidate your list of seed keywords and then start to do your keyword research when you're fleshing out either your PPC strategy or your listings and coming up with the right kind of title bullet points, et cetera. So definitely do that. Then let's talk about how you can actually positively respond to Rufus prompts with images, right? So for example, this is a question that came up in one of the listings where it says, does it require rinsing after application on metals? Now, according to Rufus's response, it says the product description doesn't specify if rinsing is required. So if that's a question that people are asking, And there is a doubt left in their mind, then guess what's going to happen? They won't find the answer, right? And then they're going to walk away. They're going to look for another product that clearly answers their question as soon as they look at it, right? So if any of those questions are creating doubts in shoppers' minds, make sure to address them through some sort of image or in your text or whatever. So for example, this product could easily add an image like this. By the way, this was created with AI, where it says, safe on metals, no rinse needed. And here you're saying no residue, no rinsing needed. So doing this proactively can actually help making sure that people stick to your listing and then they don't bounce off. More examples, all the Rufus Q&A, you can simply convert it into one image, which you can call an FAQ image or whatever. We just said real questions from real shoppers. Put those questions and throw your answers in right there so that you can influence Rufus because Rufus already has the question. Now you are providing the answer. So there you go. You can start getting indexed for it. Callouts, definitely any objections that people have expressed on your Rufus Q&A, you can see. Make sure you just proactively put that into your images. Put like no kinks, no twists, no tangles, easy to store. All the things that they have doubts about, pick those up and convert them into image callouts. Here's another one, handling negative reviews and perceptions. For example, this product, there's a question on Rufus that says, how durable is the crystal setting? The answer is, while the product description doesn't mention anything about durability, again, that's a little bit of a red flag where the answer says doesn't mention or doesn't say. important clues for you to pick up, right? So when it says doesn't say anything about durability, well, it doesn't hurt to throw in the word durability, right? That's an easy thing that you can do. But it says customers generally don't think it's durable, right? And they also say many mentioned that the stone falls out easily, and the chain tarnishes quickly. So that's not a good situation if Rufus is saying that, oh, the stone for which you're buying this necklace is actually going to fall off and you don't know when it's going to fall out. Is it worth it or not? Well, there's a nice way of handling this negative objection. You basically want to throw it back at them. You make it their responsibility to take care of this delicate product because it is so delicate. So if you add an image that says care instructions or treat it like a treasure or something like that, caring for your crystal pendant, And provide examples of the common cases where, you know, a product like this might get, you know, broken or hurt or whatever. Remove it before showering or swimming. Avoid direct contact with lotions or perfumes. Store in a dry place away from other jewelry. Clean gently with soft cloth, no harsh chemicals. So when you proactively provide this, and then, you know, if someone does happen to see this negative comment, they will know that, hey, you provided your care instructions that maybe the shopper who didn't have a good experience probably didn't take care of it as well as I will, for example, that could be their reaction to an image like this. So definitely take all measures to make sure that you're You're addressing those negative reviews with a word of advice or something because most reviews, most negative reviews come from people not knowing how to use the product. Either they'll mention that it's incompatible or something broke or whatever. So why don't you just proactively say, hey, to prevent it from breaking or not matching, this is what you need to do. All right. So then let's keep going. Main image addressing obvious questions. This has been talked about enough, so I'm not going to spend too much time on it, but I think the main image is such an important place where you can actually try to influence both SEO and Rufus because Rufus is able to read everything on your listing and also on your images. For example, this is a printer with some ink. It's saying three months of ink included. Now, you might be worried about putting stuff on your image that's not actually part of the image, but people are expressing many creative ways of doing this without it being a problem. I'm not going to go into this, but you can watch I don't know, there's so many A-B testing tools that they talk about this stuff all day long, so you can pick up some examples from there. Okay, now this is important. Always include an us versus them. This is for the comparison case because Rufus can do comparisons between your product and other people's products. It's always good to have a proactive slide that does an us versus them comparison. If you have like a use case of before, after, definitely provide those images as well. All right, rich details for nerds and Rufus. So if you look at this host pipe, it's got a lot of detail that most people wouldn't care about, right? It's got like inner tube thickness, upgrade water output, water output, so many gallons per minute, blah, blah, blah. Now all of this stuff may not be applicable to 90% of the people who are looking for a host pipe for their garden. But there'll be those one or two or three or four people out of 50 or 100 that want to know the specifics, the details, right? So there's no harm in actually providing those details on one of your images. But let's say you put it more towards the end of the gallery so that it's not like so overwhelming because the text is quite busy here, right? But Rufus will also pick it up because all of these things can be indexed. And so when someone asks a specific question about the inner tube thickness, then Rufus knows what to say. And you don't have to waste any of your precious bullet points area to answer that question. Maximizing your images. Somehow Tide managed to get 11 images. I don't know if there's a way in your category to find out if you can get more images, but the more images, the more real estate you have. Nowadays, with Rufus, this is all about expanding the amount of content you put out because every piece of content is valuable real estate for you in order to get indexed for something or the other, some use case or the other, or explain your product in some more ways or the other. If you're thinking that you have only one target audience, that's wrong. All of your products have multiple target audiences and you want to be able to touch all of them with some example or the other, some use case scenario or the other that you can showcase on your listings. Rufus currently doesn't index videos, but it soon will. Everything is going in the direction of being able to read videos and images, of course, they are, but just future-proofing yourself. Let's get you more than just one video for your listing. Up to 10 videos are possible for each ASIN. So go ahead and create different types of video use cases like, you know, it could be an us versus them thing, how we're better than competition, or it could even be like a testimonial. It could be like a how to use, it could be the best kind of features or functions of your product. So don't just stick with one video and call it done because there's so much that you could be doing. We're expanding out content and basically getting ready for this AI era that requires more content, not less. It really, really requires, I cannot press this enough, that you need more content. Previously, I don't know, in 2010 timeframe, any small listing with maybe just title and a few bullet points was enough. What A-plus content? There was no A-plus content. That became too crowded. There was too many people and then there was too much competition. So having an A-plus component became a differentiator because your conversion rate would go up by at least 20% if you just added A-plus content. Well, now we've reached an age where there's way too much competition. And how do you stand out? Well, you have to be able to feed these algorithms with as much content as possible. So you want to maximize every inch of real estate that you can find. And honestly, there's a lot on Amazon. If you really go looking, you have a lot of real estate even in your storefront. You can literally make that a mini website and just maximize that content and speak to different audiences so that you can overall train Rufus on so many things. Okay, let's talk quickly about flat file attributes, definitely. I maximize this out because the way Rufus is having those smart conversations is coming from how well the attributes are optimized. If your attributes are fully optimized and you provide every possible characteristic of your product, then it will give Rufus enough to go by. I think that's it. I'm opening this up to questions. Speaker 1: That was awesome information. Thank you so much. We do actually have some questions in there. Speaker 2: Okay, great. Speaker 1: From Annette, how important are question-based or long-tail search terms for ranking with Rufus as opposed to short generic keywords? Speaker 2: So the thing is that if you're if you're going after a long tail search, you need both, right? It's not one or the other. You've got to do an end strategy here. You need long, long tail questions. And well, the question based Q&A, you probably want to reserve for your actual listing. Making sure that you have it somewhere like I was showing in my FAQ here where you've loaded all the questions and the answers. When it comes to keywords for ranking, you're probably still going to use the same kind of strategies we've used so far with exact long tail. So what we're experimenting with right now is long tail keywords are going into exact match. Long tail with high intent is going straight into exact match single keyword campaigns. We're also creating broad match modifier campaigns because broad match modifiers are the ones that can give you a lot more impression volume versus exact that is kind of less. And so you do both of those. And then there's a third bucket, which is related keywords. And related keywords, you can have like We're a multi-keyword campaign strategy where you can keep them at a low bid because they're kind of related but they're not exactly the thing that you're selling. So you need all of those. So I hope that explains a little bit but all of them are going to be important for ranking with Rufus. Speaker 1: I have a question too. How often do you think someone should go in and extract questions from Rufus? Speaker 2: So we haven't seen them changing that frequently. So I would say if you want to test it out like in your category like once a month or something, and this tool that I shared is a good one for you to kind of just grab quickly and just dump the results into a sheet and see how it's evolving, right? I don't expect it to change that quickly. So I would just try it once a month. Speaker 1: Awesome. This was a really great presentation. So thank you so much to everyone who also joined and thank you to Ritu for being an excellent host and giving us all this great information. And so I guess we'll see you all on the next webinar, everyone. Bye, everyone. Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Bye, everyone. Speaker 1: In this episode, we explore how to create AI-powered product listings that don't just rank, they convert. You'll hear expert strategies from Ritu Java on using Amazon's Rufus to uncover real customer questions and turn them into intentional high-converting listing copy. Now, we're not ditching keywords, but we're making them smarter and more aligned with how today's shoppers actually search, ask, and buy. So let's dive in. Unknown Speaker: How cool is that? Pretty cool, I think. Hello, everybody, and welcome to another episode of the Serious Sellers Podcast by Helium 10. I'm your host, Bradley Sutton, and this is a show that's completely BS-free, unscripted and unrehearsed, organic conversation about serious strategies for serious sellers of any level in the e-commerce world. Speaker 1: We actually have an amazing presentation for you today. It's from one of the smartest people in our entire Amazon industry. Basically, she's going to be sharing some kind of advanced strategies here with AI and your listing optimization. Her name is Ritu Java. She's going to be talking about how to optimize your listings using questions from Rufus and just some AI strategies to help you beat the competition with this new AI e-commerce landscape. I'm going to go ahead and bring her on. Hello, Ritu. Speaker 2: Hey, Carrie. Good to be here. Speaker 1: How's it going? Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited. So today I will be talking about using AI for creating content and listings that convert. In this AI era, and I'm going to give you a little bit of the progression and the background of how AI has kind of made its way into Amazon and how people's behaviors are shifting in the way they search on Amazon. That's actually a very important thing to understand. And while you might all kind of assume that yes, you know, it's happening, the The way we're interacting with all kinds of LLMs, you know, has become pretty mainstream. But I really want to talk about the specifics of how that is happening and how it's unfolding on Amazon. Right. So first, just a quick introduction. So my name is Ritu Java, and I am the CEO of PPC Ninja. So we founded this company seven years ago. We're an agency so we take care of Amazon advertising for 7, 8 and 9 figure brands. We help with Amazon advertising as well as Walmart and DSP and a little bit of Google as well where Google traffic goes to Amazon, that side of things. I personally have 15 plus years of experience in the e-commerce space. I started my first business on Etsy. That was 15 years ago. Since then, I've trained thousands of people on Amazon advertising. I used to run BBC mastermind groups. These were four-week groups where we had an intimate group and it would be live. Stuff like that. Super fun times diving into PPC stuff and nerding it out. This is a little outdated, but I also run an AI for e-commerce newsletter. Subscriber rate has been ticking up quite a bit and I think at this point I'm in 3,200 subscribers. It's grown quite a bit since the last time I Let's talk about our topic today, which is to do with AI-ready listings. I just want to mention that things are changing quite fast, quite rapidly, and those people who are aware of the shift that's happened and is happening are the ones that will benefit from this discussion as well as Anything else that unfolds on Amazon going forward? People are shifting from typing in keywords that are very hard to come up with to conversations. You probably must have seen this yourself. There was a time when you would just go on Google and you would say, okay, just Google it. Or if you want to find out something about something, you would just say, Google it. Whereas now that's shifted to just go to ChatGPT or ask Claude or ask Perplexity. So that shift has already happened in the way we do search. Amazon is not free from that either because where we used to type keywords as shoppers, we would really have to think of what words to use so that we get the right products to show up. Well, now that's been replaced with conversations with Rufus, this cute little dog that I think belonged to one of the employees. Back in the day, everything is named after Rufus. There's a Rufus building, there's a project, it's called the Rufus Project. Anyway, we all know that Rufus is now pretty mainstream. It's made its way into a lot of places on Amazon. The shift is real. And I know that people ask questions like, but how many people use Rufus? Or has anyone even noticed Rufus? The thing is, it is getting noticed. And the thing is that Amazon is also committed to making this mainstream. Just to give you some very simple examples of what a regular keyword search looks like versus what a Rufus search looks like. This is real because I myself was searching for this product. I was looking for salty protein snacks because protein snacks these days, they're kind of sweet. First of all, protein in that format, it tastes disgusting. I'm going to mask its taste with sugar or whatever. I don't like it. I don't like the sugary taste, so I was looking for salty protein snacks and I specifically said with no added sugar. Now, what does the regular search look like? It actually still gave me sugary protein snacks. These were the top three results for the keyword search, for the same exact keyword search. And I was like, well, that doesn't look right. I mean, this is not what I wanted. I mean, it did have a little bit of like salt sprinkled on it, like chocolate with, you know, some amount of saltiness, but that's not what I was looking for. I was looking for a salty protein snack. So then I went to Rufus and then I searched the same exact thing there. And there it completely understood and it kind of, you know, got my point. Like I really wanted something salty. So it gave me these These salty snacks, beef jerky, et cetera, edamame. And when I looked at the descriptions, literally it actually was salty with no sugar added. So this was a win for Rufus. And I think there's going to be more and more people realizing that, oh, Rufus is better. Like Rufus understands more than just a regular A9 search does. So that's one thing. It's understanding what you want as a shopper. There's also this thing called contextual continuity. I mean, I probably might have made this term up, but What I mean with that is that when you're searching on Rufus, you can actually follow up on the response that it gives you. So it's not just a one-time search. You can actually ask follow-up questions. Just to give you an example, I was looking for a 5x3 storage shed. Unknown Speaker: If you want to be able to sync your listings that you create in Helium 10 to your Amazon account in one click, including being able to sync subject matter, which you're not able to even edit now in most listings on Amazon, you're going to want to use Helium 10 Listing Builder. Make sure to find out how to use Listing Builder by going to h10.me forward slash Listing Builder. That's h10.me forward slash Listing Builder. Speaker 2: So this was my first question. I asked for outdoor shed under 200, right? And then it gave me something which was like this, right? And it was kind of flimsy for a $200 product. It did give me something pretty flimsy. And then I said something more sturdy question mark. Now this is continuity, right? Because I am not repeating myself. I am just adding something more in a conversation, in a chat, right? So then I said something more sturdy. So it gives me something more sturdy, but then it kind of goes above my budget of $279. So I said, is that the cheapest option? Like I'm like digging in, I'm saying, hey, can you, you know, are you sure this is the cheapest option? You don't have anything better than that. And so then it gave me this result, which is like for the outdoors, it is within $200 and it is sturdy. It says heavy duty. So you see how a simple query became such a nice conversation that led to the product that I will probably purchase, right? So something like this is not possible with your regular search and shoppers are going to realize this sooner rather than later. It's going to happen. Now, again, for those people, the naysayers or people who say, oh, nobody's using Rufus, blah, blah, blah. Max Sinclair did a little bit of analysis last year of how many searches go through Rufus. And he estimated based on AWS, I don't know, he's a whiz. So he figured out something and he kind of guesstimated that 13.7% of all Amazon searches were going through Rufus and that number is just going to go up and up and up. But then look at these like investments, the heavy, heavy, heavy investments that Amazon is making on Rufus and how they're quickly expanding from US to other markets. And this is becoming mainstream. Now, it's just a matter of time before Rufus actually replaces the search bar is what I think. Now, what makes Rufus such a game changer for product discovery? Well, first of all, it can answer any questions about the product conversationally, right? So it knows everything about your products, the title of the bullet points, the A-plus content, the backend keywords, the product attributes, the questions that have been asked, the reviews that have been placed on everything, right? All of that is picked up by Rufus. So there's no hiding. You can't hide because what's there is available. You can't mask it by trying to push keyword ranking or trying to get up somehow by stuffing your listings with keywords, etc. You've got to have a more holistic approach to how you improve and make your listing very, very Rufus friendly or AI friendly. So the other thing that's happening is that Rufus understands the visuals, which is a new thing because previously, the only space or area that we had to play with SEO was our actual title and bullet points and the actual textual, you know, content, right? Whereas now, Rufus understands your visuals, it understands if there is You know, like a gamer sitting in a game room, it understands that. Or if there's a person sitting in a desk environment in an office, it understands that. So it can understand visuals, and it can read text on images. It can also understand image collections. Andrew Bell has been talking about this stuff, about how Rufus can understand the whole set, like your entire gallery, it can understand that whole thing. So the more variations of use cases you can introduce in your images, the better, because all of those are getting picked up and being indexed. Now, it also provides recommendations for complex needs. You just saw an example from me. It had to be a sturdy product. It had to be under 200, and it had to be something for outdoors, et cetera. So those are complex needs that cannot be described through just keywords. It gives you trusted guidance because it shares reviews You know, openly, it's not going to mince words. If there's one negative listing, negative review on your listing, then unfortunately, it will get picked up by Rufus. So you've got to figure out ways and I'll talk about some of those ways towards the end of like how we can, you know, tackle that and how we can proactively address negative reviews that Rufus is so openly sharing with shoppers. It can dig deep into your product questions. It can show you the latest updates and comparisons. So for example, you can ask questions like, how does this product compare with that other product? You can also compare across brands. You can say, what about that product from that other brand? How does this compare with that? And it's going to do a comparison. So any kind of extra information that you can provide on your listings that feeds these sorts of things like updates or comparisons, it'll be good for you to control the narrative by proactively providing information that Rufus can start indexing for. And then We know that it is instant action like it's like you're just having a conversation in real time almost. And it can provide price history. You can ask for price history. It engages in real-time conversation. And it's also surfacing sponsored brand video ads. So if you don't have video ads, I would highly recommend that you start creating those because some of those video pieces get shown as part of the answer. And that's a really good thing. So we'll talk a little bit about all of these things. Just an example of a complex query from a person in Florida who wanted a pool umbrella and she said pool umbrella for Florida and this actually did a great job about understanding the geographical location and the kind of weather conditions like humidity, wind resistance and suggested top rated option. For her specific need, which is unbelievable because you can't do that with just keywords. Okay, and then there's more, right? So it's not just Rufus. AI is going to infiltrate every aspect of Amazon, right? And in fact, it's already doing it. There's AI shopping guides now. There's interest AI. I don't know if you've seen this. Or the AI driven size recommendations. So Amazon is really, really investing heavily. Some of these Amazon features or products are going to work in conjunction with Rufus. So like they've already said that your AI shopping guide will work with Rufus. And Alexa will work with Rufus. So Alexa Plus, which is new, it's coming out, and I think it's going to cost like $9.99 per household, is this new thing where you can have conversations with it so that it can surface products that meet certain needs. Like, hey, it's Carla's birthday this weekend. What's a good fit for her? So they know who Carla is. They know it's her 30th birthday and they will find something that is appropriate for So let's talk a little bit about where Rufus lives. Where can you find Rufus? So Rufus basically lives everywhere that shoppers ask questions. So if you start typing anything in the search bar, you will see an autocomplete box that drops down. And now you'll also start seeing, actually, this is not new. I'm sure you've noticed it. A lot of people haven't, but I just point, I like to point it out that these little things at the bottom, these are questions from Rufus, right? Rufus likes to talk in Q&A format, like prompt and response format. So these are some Rufus placements. Then you have just the regular Rufus box that shows up at the bottom left of your screen. In some markets, the box hasn't appeared on desktop yet, so you'll have to go through mobile. That's the only way to access Rufus. For example, I was trying in Canada because I'm from Canada. I'm not seeing Rufus in the desktop version, but I do see it in my mobile version. So that's Rufus there. And then we've also started seeing Rufus kind of spread out everywhere. Like for example, just below the image, the main image, you'll see some questions, like two or three questions. And I've also seen it in one of the The Shopping Cart Flows, where you can potentially have a final question before you make your final purchase. That's also another place that Rufus is beginning to show up. And so it's important to start paying attention to what questions are showing up on your listings because that gives you huge amounts of clues as to what shoppers are asking on your listing. And because Rufus knows everything about everything on your listing, it's important to pay attention to those questions and then start to kind of try and address those. Now let's talk about what is running Rufus. What is the brains behind Rufus? It's this white paper called COSMO and COSMO stands for Large-scale E-commerce Common Sense Knowledge Generation and Serving System at Amazon and there's a bunch of smart people's names here who actually wrote this white paper and they have described in it quite a lot of detail of like what are the algorithmic or AI based models behind behind this search search engine, the new search engine that is kind of replacing the old system of You know, a nine or just like matching words to words kind of thing. This is a new way of discovering products through understanding what is the shopper actually needing, like it's literally trying to understand or decipher what the shopper actually wants. And this makes for better matches, right? Because otherwise we often find You know, search results on Amazon being off like sometimes the video ads are off like you you ask for something and you get something totally different. You're like what? I didn't ask for this or you ask for a specific color, it gives you a different color. So those kinds of things could have been gamed in the past because you could insert the wrong keyword somewhere and somehow fool shoppers. No longer. No longer. With Cosmo and Rufus, you won't be able to do that because it understands your listing holistically and not just by the small set of keywords that you want to showcase or you want it to believe that it is. Let's look at exactly how this kind of search query matching happens with Cosmo. I want to share that there's four major upgrades to the way search is happening nowadays with Rufus. So first of all, the first point or the first upgrade is with word meanings, right? This has always been around, like word meanings, you match a search query with a keyword, right? That's how we've kind of seen it over the years. Now, when you say word meanings, it basically knows what you actually typed and it maps it to like synonyms or very close word meanings. In both the text and the images. Previously it was only text, now it's text and images, right? So this part has got a certain amount of an upgrade, but it's not a huge upgrade. It's still word meaning match, right? Word match. For example, cozy blanket, snug blanket, the synonyms. So those will fly. The second one is semantics. Semantics is where it understands how words connect up with each other because it recognizes the meaning based on phrases and categories and use case context. For example, if someone says cozy blanket, it basically can match to a warm winter blanket because it is semantically the same thing. It means the same thing. Then you have inference. These are words that you didn't say out loud or a shopper didn't say out loud. So it's filling in the blanks on what they actually meant. So let's say, for example, someone types Netflix night setup or something and it could match to something like a cozy blanket. So it's inferring stuff that you didn't say. Then there is personalization, which is probably one of the most important features or attributes of how this whole query matching is going, where it learns your patterns as a shopper and it adapts and it gives you results that are more applicable to you as a person and whatever you've done on the Amazon platform thus far. For example, If there's like a mom who's looking for a cozy blanket, she might see something that is more soft, pastel, floral, etc. Whereas if there's a bachelor who's looking for like a game night setup or a Netflix setup or whatever, they'll see like dark shades, you know, for like a man cave or whatever. And so there's those differences that start to pop up with search results. So then what happens to ranking when every person will start getting results that are customized to them? Then how can we get into this world or how do we understand this world where ranking could be different for different people, right? For you, the number one product that shows up is maybe the black throw. And for me, it could be the floral one, right? So there's two different ranks for two different people. And so there's a lot of challenges. I'm up ahead with understanding ranking, understanding how we can kind of continue to show up more visibly in different places on Amazon. I'll give you some more examples. This is just going to help you understand a little bit more so that you can start to customize your listings accordingly. Again, I'm going to take all four of those word meanings, semantics, inference, and personalization and show you some more examples. So, for example, this keyword, odor-resistant towel, this word can be matched to this listing and actually Rufus did. And the reason why it matched it is because in the product description, it has this term, odor-resistant. So, there's odor-resistant, there's odor-resistant. Other than this, there was no other mention of odor-resistant. Anywhere else on the listing except in the product information section. So yeah, that's a match. Then people might start typing things like towel that doesn't stink. So when you say towel that doesn't stink, obviously those words do not exist on regular listings. You don't write towel that doesn't stink. So what does that match to? Well, it's matching to the, you know, it says this, these microfiber towels are designed to resist odor and stay fresh. So it's basically mapped the semantics or the, you know, the association of what the customer wants with the context and of what what's written on the listing. Here's another example of inference. Inference is stuff that they did not say. When you ask, choose for pregnant women, it shows you a product like this where on this product, if you go and check, there's no mention of pregnant women, none of that is mentioned, but we know from the attributes of what pregnant women want. They would want something that's flat, that's open, that's sturdy, that's non-slip and so on, comfortable, etc. So that's how these inferences get matched based on what was typed in. Here's another example of inference where let's say a college student is looking for a microwave for dorm room and she's not saying anything more than that in terms of like, Whether it should be small or cute or any of that. But in her mind, she's got this image of how her nice little dorm room is going to look like. And what props up is something like this, not like our standard black, you know, large, large size microwave, they get something that is perfect for dorm room and what goes with dorm decor. And then there's personalization, like I said, so when you type a word like noise cancellation headphones, You could see different results. For example, a gamer might see something like this, and a commuter might see something like this. Both are noise cancellation headphones, but because Amazon knows who you are, pretty much, they know more about us than we do, honestly, at this point. They know exactly what kind of stuff you buy. So they've classified you and categorized you and profiled you and they know what you will want. And that's where things start to get interesting because the ranking starts to change. So the moral of the story is that brands that are not optimizing for conversational e-commerce will lose out, right? And so that's a big broad sweeping statement, but I want to kind of break it down a little bit and start to give you some tips on how to get indexed for Rufus, how to influence Rufus. It may not happen overnight. In fact, the speed of Rufus picking up changes is much, much, much, much slower than a regular SEO indexation scenario. So in the past, we were able to kind of insert a new keyword or drop a keyword and then Within an hour, you could run a Helium 10 indexation check and you would know whether it is indexed or not for that and there's so many indexation tests. Whereas for Rufus, this process is going to be extremely slow because Rufus relies on real engagement with your listing and therefore you've got to have patience, number one, and number two, you've got to start early because it will take time, right? So for all those people who think that it's a waste of time to invest in Today we're going to talk about AI-ready listings for Rufus. I'm just telling you that because it's going to take so much time, you want to get ahead of it and not just take your time and do it when the cold rush starts and people start to go and try to, when they start to index and when Rufus starts to recommend them over you. So that's too late. So you start now. So how do you start? Well, first of all, like I said, you need to understand what Rufus is showing on On your listing, what are the questions that it is showing up by default? So let's do a little exercise here. I have this product and I'm going to run Rufus here and I'm going to try and figure out what do people say, what are the typical questions that people ask because I want to extract those questions and then I want to do stuff with them. So what I'll do is first of all, I'll go to Rufus and I'll see what Rufus is asking. What are the main ingredients? Does it contain allergies? Any common allergy, what do customers say, is this snack vegan, kids eat, blah, blah, blah. Now, this is like about six or seven questions. Typically, it gives you five to six to seven questions in the first flush. Then when you start clicking on all of them, you can ask more questions or it'll auto-populate more prompts for you to go click and ask and click and ask. Now that's a lot of work for someone who's just wanting those questions. So we actually built a little tool that will do it for you. So this little tool actually will, if you just say auto-click 15, basically it'll go 15 times and keep auto-clicking each of the prompts. And I'm hands-free right now, so it's just doing its job in the back end. And it's just opening up all the... And I'm going to be answering the questions and extracting all the answers because I want to know what answers it's giving because that's where my clues lie, right? I want to see what I can do with those responses and see if I can influence them. So anyway, while it's doing that thing, I'll show you the second tool that kind of goes with it, which is this one, where I want to extract the Q&A that it's doing right now. So if I just click on it midway, it's probably done three or four. So yeah, it's copied six questions and six answers right now, right? So this goes into your clipboard memory and then you can copy it anywhere into a notepad or whatever and then analyze it and so on. So I'll let this keep going. I just want to share that I can give you that tool if you're interested in using it. It's free. It's an extraction and so on. Go ahead and take a screenshot, photo, whatever you want to do. That's the tool. It has all the instructions of how to use it. I basically showed it to you, but you can actually go in and watch a little video inside in case you forget these instructions, and then you're able to run your own Rufus analysis. Okay, the other thing I want to say is that because synonyms, you know, variations of your words are going to be so important, don't forget to use Magnet to kind of expand and find new words, right? Because you don't want to just stick with the most or the highest search volume words because that's not going to be able to cover all the needs. The only reason why those were high search volume is because, well, actually, there could be a few reasons, but that, you know, those words represent the majority of people and how they express those words like plush blanket might be maybe a majority of people use that term. But given that people are now getting more comfortable with having a chat mindset, like they might express it in other ways, you know, they're beginning to be loose about the words that or the choice of words. That they used to describe certain products. In fact, they might have in the past been forced to use a term like plush blanket, whereas that's not what they meant. They actually meant something quite different, but they had to use it because that was the only way to get the search engine to show them some results. Now it's going to be different, right? So therefore, the more keywords you can expand out to the better, right? And that's where Magnet comes in. You can really expand. So as you can see, plush blanket opened up quite a few Keywords like throw blanket, college dorm, I would probably delete the deals thingy, but anyway, college dorm, essentials, dorm. So a lot of dorm stuff came up, mother, mom gifts came up, travel blanket. Now, only if your product is a travel blanket, it's light and so on. Otherwise, you could ignore that. Picnic blanket, blankets, queen-size throw blanket for couch, pink throw blanket, et cetera. So expand out as many as you can and then use a combination of AI and Magnet to consolidate your list of seed keywords and then start to do your keyword research when you're fleshing out either your PPC strategy or your listings and coming up with the right kind of title bullet points, et cetera. So definitely do that. Then let's talk about how you can actually positively respond to Rufus prompts with images, right? So for example, this is a question that came up in one of the listings where it says, does it require rinsing after application on metals? Now, according to Rufus's response, it says the product description doesn't specify if rinsing is required. So if that's a question that people are asking, And there is a doubt left in their mind, then guess what's going to happen? They won't find the answer, right? And then they're going to walk away. They're going to look for another product that clearly answers their question as soon as they look at it, right? So if any of those questions are creating doubts in shoppers' minds, make sure to address them through some sort of image or in your text or whatever. So for example, this product could easily add an image like this. By the way, this was created with AI, where it says, safe on metals, no rinse needed. And here you're saying no residue, no rinsing needed. So doing this proactively can actually help making sure that people stick to your listing and then they don't bounce off. More examples, all the Rufus Q&A, you can simply convert it into one image, which you can call an FAQ image or whatever. We just said real questions from real shoppers. Put those questions and throw your answers in right there so that you can influence Rufus because Rufus already has the question. Now you are providing the answer. So there you go. You can start getting indexed for it. Callouts, definitely any objections that people have expressed on your Rufus Q&A, you can see. Make sure you just proactively put that into your images. Put like no kinks, no twists, no tangles, easy to store. All the things that they have doubts about, pick those up and convert them into image callouts. Here's another one, handling negative reviews and perceptions. For example, this product, there's a question on Rufus that says, how durable is the crystal setting? The answer is, while the product description doesn't mention anything about durability, again, that's a little bit of a red flag where the answer says doesn't mention or doesn't say. important clues for you to pick up, right? So when it says doesn't say anything about durability, well, it doesn't hurt to throw in the word durability, right? That's an easy thing that you can do. But it says customers generally don't think it's durable, right? And they also say many mentioned that the stone falls out easily, and the chain tarnishes quickly. So that's not a good situation if Rufus is saying that, oh, the stone for which you're buying this necklace is actually going to fall off and you don't know when it's going to fall out. Is it worth it or not? Well, there's a nice way of handling this negative objection. You basically want to throw it back at them. You make it their responsibility to take care of this delicate product because it is so delicate. So if you add an image that says care instructions or treat it like a treasure or something like that, caring for your crystal pendant, And provide examples of the common cases where, you know, a product like this might get, you know, broken or hurt or whatever. Remove it before showering or swimming. Avoid direct contact with lotions or perfumes. Store in a dry place away from other jewelry. Clean gently with soft cloth, no harsh chemicals. So when you proactively provide this, and then, you know, if someone does happen to see this negative comment, they will know that, hey, you provided your care instructions that maybe the shopper who didn't have a good experience probably didn't take care of it as well as I will, for example, that could be their reaction to an image like this. So definitely take all measures to make sure that you're You're addressing those negative reviews with a word of advice or something because most reviews, most negative reviews come from people not knowing how to use the product. Either they'll mention that it's incompatible or something broke or whatever. So why don't you just proactively say, hey, to prevent it from breaking or not matching, this is what you need to do. All right. So then let's keep going. Main image addressing obvious questions. This has been talked about enough, so I'm not going to spend too much time on it, but I think the main image is such an important place where you can actually try to influence both SEO and Rufus because Rufus is able to read everything on your listing and also on your images. For example, this is a printer with some ink. It's saying three months of ink included. Now, you might be worried about putting stuff on your image that's not actually part of the image, but people are expressing many creative ways of doing this without it being a problem. I'm not going to go into this, but you can watch I don't know, there's so many A-B testing tools that they talk about this stuff all day long, so you can pick up some examples from there. Okay, now this is important. Always include an us versus them. This is for the comparison case because Rufus can do comparisons between your product and other people's products. It's always good to have a proactive slide that does an us versus them comparison. If you have like a use case of before, after, definitely provide those images as well. All right, rich details for nerds and Rufus. So if you look at this host pipe, it's got a lot of detail that most people wouldn't care about, right? It's got like inner tube thickness, upgrade water output, water output, so many gallons per minute, blah, blah, blah. Now all of this stuff may not be applicable to 90% of the people who are looking for a host pipe for their garden. But there'll be those one or two or three or four people out of 50 or 100 that want to know the specifics, the details, right? So there's no harm in actually providing those details on one of your images. But let's say you put it more towards the end of the gallery so that it's not like so overwhelming because the text is quite busy here, right? But Rufus will also pick it up because all of these things can be indexed. And so when someone asks a specific question about the inner tube thickness, then Rufus knows what to say. And you don't have to waste any of your precious bullet points area to answer that question. Maximizing your images. Somehow Tide managed to get 11 images. I don't know if there's a way in your category to find out if you can get more images, but the more images, the more real estate you have. Nowadays, with Rufus, this is all about expanding the amount of content you put out because every piece of content is valuable real estate for you in order to get indexed for something or the other, some use case or the other, or explain your product in some more ways or the other. If you're thinking that you have only one target audience, that's wrong. All of your products have multiple target audiences and you want to be able to touch all of them with some example or the other, some use case scenario or the other that you can showcase on your listings. Rufus currently doesn't index videos, but it soon will. Everything is going in the direction of being able to read videos and images, of course, they are, but just future-proofing yourself. Let's get you more than just one video for your listing. Up to 10 videos are possible for each ASIN. So go ahead and create different types of video use cases like, you know, it could be an us versus them thing, how we're better than competition, or it could even be like a testimonial. It could be like a how to use, it could be the best kind of features or functions of your product. So don't just stick with one video and call it done because there's so much that you could be doing. We're expanding out content and basically getting ready for this AI era that requires more content, not less. It really, really requires, I cannot press this enough, that you need more content. Previously, I don't know, in 2010 timeframe, any small listing with maybe just title and a few bullet points was enough. What A-plus content? There was no A-plus content. That became too crowded. There was too many people and then there was too much competition. So having an A-plus component became a differentiator because your conversion rate would go up by at least 20% if you just added A-plus content. Well, now we've reached an age where there's way too much competition. And how do you stand out? Well, you have to be able to feed these algorithms with as much content as possible. So you want to maximize every inch of real estate that you can find. And honestly, there's a lot on Amazon. If you really go looking, you have a lot of real estate even in your storefront. You can literally make that a mini website and just maximize that content and speak to different audiences so that you can overall train Rufus on so many things. Okay, let's talk quickly about flat file attributes, definitely. I maximize this out because the way Rufus is having those smart conversations is coming from how well the attributes are optimized. If your attributes are fully optimized and you provide every possible characteristic of your product, then it will give Rufus enough to go by. I think that's it. I'm opening this up to questions. Speaker 1: That was awesome information. Thank you so much. We do actually have some questions in there. Speaker 2: Okay, great. Speaker 1: From Annette, how important are question-based or long-tail search terms for ranking with Rufus as opposed to short generic keywords? Speaker 2: So the thing is that if you're if you're going after a long tail search, you need both, right? It's not one or the other. You've got to do an end strategy here. You need long, long tail questions. And well, the question based Q&A, you probably want to reserve for your actual listing. Making sure that you have it somewhere like I was showing in my FAQ here where you've loaded all the questions and the answers. When it comes to keywords for ranking, you're probably still going to use the same kind of strategies we've used so far with exact long tail. So what we're experimenting with right now is long tail keywords are going into exact match. Long tail with high intent is going straight into exact match single keyword campaigns. We're also creating broad match modifier campaigns because broad match modifiers are the ones that can give you a lot more impression volume versus exact that is kind of less. And so you do both of those. And then there's a third bucket, which is related keywords. And related keywords, you can have like We're a multi-keyword campaign strategy where you can keep them at a low bid because they're kind of related but they're not exactly the thing that you're selling. So you need all of those. So I hope that explains a little bit but all of them are going to be important for ranking with Rufus. Speaker 1: I have a question too. How often do you think someone should go in and extract questions from Rufus? Speaker 2: So we haven't seen them changing that frequently. So I would say if you want to test it out like in your category like once a month or something, and this tool that I shared is a good one for you to kind of just grab quickly and just dump the results into a sheet and see how it's evolving, right? I don't expect it to change that quickly. So I would just try it once a month. Speaker 1: Awesome. This was a really great presentation. So thank you so much to everyone who also joined and thank you to Ritu for being an excellent host and giving us all this great information. And so I guess we'll see you all on the next webinar, everyone. Bye, everyone. Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Bye, everyone.

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