#094 - The Untold Story of Flips4Miles with Miles Longstreth I The Corey Ganim Show

#094 - The Untold Story of Flips4Miles with Miles Longstreth I The Corey Ganim Show Speaker 2: All right, everybody, welcome back to The Corey Ganim Show. I am your host, Corey Ganim, and we've got a fun episode this week because we've got a guest that is a little elusive in the sense that I've been on multiple podcasts with him before. But I think this is the first time I've been able to time down for a one-on-one episode. So the guest, if you couldn't tell already, it is Miles Longstreth, otherwise known as Flips4Miles. He's someone who really helped me get into the space. He is pretty much the face of online arbitrage on social media. A lot of you guys might've found me through him, but On today's episode, we are going to talk, we're definitely going to talk about Amazon and some tactics and some tricks and whatnot, as we always do. But I want to dive more into the story of Miles of Flips4Miles, how he came to be Flips4Miles and everything that has kind of occurred in his life along the way, because I think there's a lot to learn from his journey. He's definitely one of the most driven people I've met. By far the most, like the hardest person working I've met, I would probably say out of everybody I know, which is, and I know a lot of hardworking people. So someone I think we're going to have a really good conversation with here over the next 40, 45 minutes or so. So Miles, thank you for joining me today, man. I'm looking forward to digging into your life more. So just pass the Amazon stuff, right? Pass some other stuff we can talk about too. Speaker 1: Cool. Hell yeah, man. Thanks a lot. Excited to hop on and jam, because we've done a bunch of, you know, maybe four or five Buy Box Bandits episodes over the two years or so that we've known each other and everything, but first time on the CG show, so it should be a lot of fun and everything, man. I'm very excited. Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. And so guys, go back, if you're listening to this on my channel or on my podcast, if you go back to episode, it was, I want to say 78 or 79 of back when we were calling it the Amazon Wholesale Podcast, I did an episode with Miles and Garrett, both of which hosts the Buy Box Bandits podcast, which if you're in the Amazon space, that is an absolute must listen. And I think that episode we did like a wholesale 101, kind of like an introduction to wholesale. And that was great. And we've done other, like you said, we've done other episodes on I think both my podcast and BuyBox Bandits where me, you and Garrett, the three of us kind of break down some, usually some in-depth Amazon talk. But yeah, I'm excited to talk more than that today. So to kind of get to dig in and kind of break the ice, Miles, tell us a story about how did you get to this point, right? Because I think a lot of people see you today. We're in February or I guess March of 2025. You've got multiple hundreds of thousands of followers combined across all your social platforms. You are one of the faces of selling on Amazon, one of the bigger faces, but how did you get here? How did this story start, even from childhood, if you want to start there? Speaker 1: What I would say is where it actually starts is Christmas of 2010. I always really, really liked Legos kind of like my whole life basically, but Christmas of 2010, I got this awesome Lego set and I couldn't figure out how to put it together correctly, like a couple of things, which is kind of weird because there are instructions, but for whatever reason, it just wasn't clicking. I go on the early internet, probably on Google, but maybe on YouTube by that point, and I looked up LEGO Slave 1. I just looked it up to see if anyone had been able to put it together and obviously people were. Pretty quickly like saw like, wow, like there's people like talking about building Legos and painting their own custom figurines and all this stuff online. I was like, holy crap, like I've been kind of sitting here privately in fourth, fifth and sixth grade, you know, doing this on my own. No one really knows that it's like one of my hobbies and everything. And it was pretty cool to see like that online community forum. So, and literally like the next day I made my first YouTube video with it, like legit back in 2010. Yep. Back in 2010. Yeah. So literally like I probably looked up, looked up the videos on like the 25th or 26th and then have my first video out the 27th and basically like Honestly, pretty quickly, man, it's so similar to what I recommend to people selling on Amazon, honestly. But like that week, I'm pretty sure I'm commenting on other people's stuff. I'm getting comments. And I'm on Skype with these people pretty quick, talking about Legos and everything, watching other people's videos, making my own too a little bit. So that was like right at the start of 2011, end of 2010 basically. And the next couple of years, I just really like immerse myself in the online Lego community. It's actually still going. It was on this old website called Flickr, which Yahoo bought and destroyed. They made a bunch of weird updates to it. So most people are typically on Instagram. And actually a couple of my friends still do it. I'd say like probably like 20% of my core friend group is still in the game. Basically, like literally like almost 15 years later at this point, which is crazy to say, basically. But so then from 2011 till like 2014-ish, Legos were my whole life. Legos and basketball pretty much. And so what I would do is we would all We planned the whole year and put together a big build we would make of like custom Legos, no instructions or anything, that we would all put together at this big Lego convention in Washington, D.C. every year, which is still going on. It's really, really cool. I'll probably go again in the next couple of years, basically. But we would literally all year. And that taught me a lot of delayed gratification about business and a lot of like collaboration stuff, too, because it was basically like we'd be sitting there in September knowing all well for a fact I'm not going to see any of my boys in person until August. Basically, and we're going to work on this. We're going to all put it together. We're going to hide what it looks like sometimes post an occasional progress pic online. Basically, and put those things together. And so I did that. I went to the convention for the first time in 2012 and then met my very, very good friends pretty immediately from online because it's kind of like going to an Amazon convention. You lock eyes with people, you kind of know each other. But with Legos, it was all anonymous. No one was posting pictures of each other. So you only got to know the people that were making YouTube videos, which is very few people. I even stopped making YouTube videos. I only did pictures. Actually, there were two like kind of separate sides of the community base. There's like the Flickr side of things and the YouTube side of things and it's kind of like a silent rivalry basically between them. And so from 2012 to 2014, We get better year over year. It's crazy how good people are at Legos these days because they made so many new colors and so many new pieces that like what you can do is so advanced relative to what you can do back in the day. And then so I'd actually go to the convention every year from 2012 to 2018 and literally every year we put together a big thing. Some people kind of come and go. Some people go to college, get a little bit less into it and everything. And it was a huge part of my life till like 2018. But in 2014, this is the key. 2014, I follow this kid from New York and he posts Legos, posts Legos, posts Legos, picture of shoes. Speaker 2: Is this still on Flickr or is this on Instagram now? Speaker 1: This is on Flickr. Yeah, this is still on Flickr. So it's like picture of Legos, picture of shoes, picture of Legos, picture of shoes. He comes to the convention. I'm like, dude, how are you getting all this stuff? And he's like, yeah, I'm actually reselling them to be able to afford it. So I actually have always, I kind of left this out. I shouldn't mention it. Always loved the yard sale part of the convention and trading and bartering and taking someone's lunch money, trading with them, like knocking their head over a deal. Like, because everyone's trading and I'm shipping checks to people. I'm, you know, I'm building up my reputation. So people ship first to me and then I ship it to them because I have a little bit of a personal brand now in Lego space. And so he's like, yeah, it's kind of like what we're doing with Legos. It just, there's a lot more money into it. So now, And I have a decent amount of clout in the Lego space. I'm getting stuff for free sometimes from some of the companies and sponsorship here and there. I'm dapping people up at the conventions and everything when I'm like 15. And everyone's pretty young too, like pretty much everyone. Speaker 2: I was going to say, I bet everybody, I just had a feeling most people in the space probably are on the younger side. Speaker 1: Mostly under 30, but there's a ton of people that are really, really good at it that are like 30, 40, 50 plus, because they have the financial resources to make some crazy stuff. Are they really good? Because it is an art form. I'll totally say it's an art form. But they also have the resource to put really cool stuff together and they've had a while to build up the correct pieces and everything. So a project to them is way less expensive than a project to me because they already have pieces from stuff they put together in the past for past shows. He immediately steals 500 bucks from me, scams me twice. It was completely my fault, completely my fault, I trusted him, but he immediately scams me for 500 bucks. It's the best 500 bucks I ever spent. Best 500 bucks I ever spent. That taught me a ton to really make sure no one's finessing you or anything. But he immediately steals 500 bucks from me, basically. Sold me fake shoes, which was my fault for not recognizing it, but whatever. And so I start doing that. 2014, 2015, 2016, I'm in high school. I'm doing it here and there. Get a little bit more serious about it in 2018 or 2017 and start doing outlets. I was previously just doing Facebook groups, which is brutal because you got to follow up with people like crazy. You got to make new posts like crazy. People are getting scammed all over the place and everything. And then two weeks before I go to college, uh, basically two weeks before I go to college, my mom is like, all right, so like, when are you getting rid of all these shoes, man? Like you're going to college soon. Like you're going to leave this behind. And I was like, no, I'm going to bring them to the dorm with me. Like I'm obviously mom. Right. And so I do that. And luckily I had a super cool roommate. So super cool roommate who was cool with me having a ton of shoes, obviously on my side of the room, basically. And so, um, That happens 2017, start selling a little bit more. Really, really big inflection point is we weren't allowed to have cars on campus as freshmen, but one of my homies had a car. So he would drive me to the post office and we would go to lunch every day, basically. So I have the means to ship the product now, right? Speaker 2: Are you selling these on, where are you selling these shoes at this point? Speaker 1: So StockX and GOAT actually, I should have mentioned that. It evolved from Facebook groups. It evolved to eventually StockX and Goat because the big thing with StockX and Goat is that there's no communication. There's heavy leverage on it and then you could sell something in your sleep. You can sell something without messaging, without having to follow people back. It's a safe process. They authenticate it. Right, so that's a big thing. So 2017 I learned about Goat and StockX. I pick up the pace a little bit more and my homies have the car, right? Now the problem is I had an awesome friend group freshman year and like three out of like the seven people transferred and it was kind of like two of the three were like my best friends in the friend group basically. So they transfer but now I got the whip because I had a car sophomore year and I start hitting outlets heavily in 2018 and really start to I make a couple good friends on Sneaker Instagram, but the key is I don't have my page on Sneaker Instagram, which is crazy ironic, right? Because I'm the guy telling everything right now, right? But back in the day, all my friends have like 5k, 10k or a couple thousand followers on their Sneaker Instagram and I'm the one who's anonymous, right? I'm the one who's DMing from the personal page, which is super ironic, right? But I'm learning from them. They're like some of the big, bigger guys in the shoe space, like that are making a couple thousand bucks a month profit. I'm probably making like a thousand bucks a month profit, but I'm having a great time. I love doing it. Like the exact same thing as trading Legos in 2012 and 2013 and everything. Exact same thing, but a little bit more money involved with it. Right. And then basically, because my friends transferred, I get unlimited free time now. So I unlimited free time. I, my roommate wasn't like one of my best friends. He was, he was still a good guy, but I got unlimited free time. So now I'm driving an hour to the outlets every, every weekend, right? I'm driving an hour to the outlets every weekend. And that hour, I can either listen to music or I'm getting a little bit more into business. I'm starting to get hit by ads. I'm starting to get hit by Amazon FBA courses. I'm like, damn it. Speaker 2: Oh, here we go. Speaker 1: There's people selling stuff that's not shoes. When my mom gets something on Amazon, it's not from just Amazon itself. I'm like, holy crap. Speaker 2: Right. I always thought that too. One of the big eye-opening early moments for me was that like, wait, I thought everything I bought on Amazon is from Jeff Bezos. So sorry, continue. Speaker 1: No, no, definitely, man. I was the exact same way, right? So I got a ton of free time now because my homies are gone basically. I only go out like once or twice the whole sophomore year basically. I'm going to the outlets every weekend. I'm getting more product and now I'm fully in the mix. I'm starting to get hit by Amazon ads. I'm following more people on Sneaker Instagram, which morphs into Reselling Instagram, which morphs into Amazon Instagram. So now I'm getting exposed to a lot of different stuff. I remember watching a ton of Gary Vee videos, Grant Cardone videos back in the day. Gary Vee was kind of always who I liked the best. He used to talk about reselling too and I really relate to that. Basically and so he is like really, really starting to talk about like personal branding. A couple of teachers I liked from high school, they're recommending me books now. I'm reading The Rich Dad, Poor Dad, 4-Hour Workweek. Everyone kind of reads that too soon, but I read that too soon. Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. Speaker 1: And then Gary V's book from back in the day, which was The Recommendation by Reezy actually. Yeah, so it's The Recommendation by Reezy. So I was watching Avery. Reezy, Steve Rake and all those guys talking about Amazon stuff. But I don't really start yet because I start to get good at reselling shoes. I have like a 3K profit month Q4 of 2018 and then a 4K profit month Q4 of 2018. As a college kid, that's so much money. Speaker 2: Like that's how much I would make in the entire summer usually like pressure washing driveways in the heat of the summer, right? Speaker 1: Yeah. What I liked about shoes was that your money was very tied to your effort. The most I ever made at a job my whole life was nine bucks an hour, $9.25 for that. I actually had jobs I liked, but the bread was two. I actually did decently like the jobs I had, which was giving tours, gave tours in high school, gave tours in college, and then was a camp counselor. All of those are actually really chill jobs. They just pay really, really low, basically. I'm going to the outlets two, three times a week, so I'm on the road like six hours a week by myself. Nothing to do. Don't really have a ton of great friends at school, but people are always interested in what I'm doing a little bit. People are always asking questions, and I'm learning about other people. I was super well-connected without having a Like tied in social circle basically. I was cool with the lacrosse guys, cool with the soccer. Like I was pretty much, I was kind of in the mix because I didn't have like a, there was no Greek life in college and there was no Greek life, no off-campus housing. So it was like a school where there was very little partying, which in the hindsight was a very big blessing. Like a lot of people were mad about it, but I appreciate it now. Speaker 2: For you it was a good place. Most people probably wouldn't like it. Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So I'm driving around doing these outlets, having a lot of fun. And then I read Gary Vee's book, Crush, and I'm like, damn, man, he's so right. Like I had a Lego personal brand in like 2011. Like why am I doing that for shoes? Right. And so 2019, I'm like, what am I going to name it? I was like, all right, Flips4Miles sounds pretty good. And so I do that. And then basically that was when I started my IG page in 2019. January 2019 Flips4Miles and then I'm still only doing shoes. I get really sidetracked and outlets dried up a little bit, but I start selling a lot of used shoes because I kind of got shiny object syndrome. People were talking about on IG because no one was really talking about the outlets as much. This is a little bit more scarce. So people are kind of keeping that to the chest a little bit more. And so that whole sophomore year goes by. And I'm just doing my thing with that. I'm selling some new shoes now too as well. And then I. This was such a bad idea, man. I have no idea why but oh, I know it was actually required. So it was so I start making money online a little bit and then I realized that I really would just it was not thinking I was gonna have a job ever, right? So I was like, all right, man, how could I get out of college earlier? How can I give myself a six-month head start right in terms like, you know being an entrepreneur full-time and right so I I concoct this plan, right? I had a required internship that I had to do at some point. Speaker 2: I had one of those. Speaker 1: Yeah, right. So most people did it the summer before senior year, which would have been 2020 for me. But I did it the summer of 2019 and I did it where I lived in my college town pretty much by myself for like half the time. So I had unlimited free time, man, to resell and to learn and everything. So that's when I got really serious and eventually started doing Amazon. But the problem was back in the day, You know better than anyone for being around back then, right? Online Arbitrage was seen as this crazy thing that you do once your account has a crap ton of sales from books, which we now know in hindsight is not the case. I'm not even considering doing Online Arbitrage. That's why I started selling on Amazon in 2019, but I started doing Online Arbitrage in 2021. Those are such incredibly different spheres, basically. I talk about Online Arbitrage primarily. Books was a great way to learn for free, but it was because I didn't have much money, right? So I started doing used books in 2019 basically. And dude, that's what I think is so funny because like I did like $1,500 my second month grinding. Speaker 2: Really? Yeah, but I mean, I feel like most people who start with books, they'll do like $50 their first month. Speaker 1: They're like, you know, but I want to compare it to people starting these days. Yeah, which like that's like I'll have students all the time. They'll be like dude, like what am I gonna post about? Like I did three grand my second month and I'm like dude I did less than that my second month like damn near working on it full-time because my internship finished early, right? So I'm grinding I do but but the key here now that now the key through all this is that I'm grinding on books making pretty much no money, but I'm documenting like crazy so My bio was like college kid, an entrepreneur, whatever, 20 years old, on a mission to make the world a better place, something like that. I'm out there, man. I did exactly what Gary Vee said, or at least my best of it, is I just listened to what he said. If you put stuff out there, people are going to come. People are going to help you. You're going to find people who think like you. It went so much better than I expected. I remember in August of 2019, I did the 2000 book challenge. I didn't even make it to it. But Avery Romer had me on his YouTube for a video. He asked me to do the video. I didn't pay anything for that. And then I got a bunch of followers from it, right? And now people are giving me tips. I'll post something on my story and like someone who's been in the game five years will swipe up like, dude, you're doing that wrong. Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh cool. Speaker 1: And I didn't pay any money for it, right? I didn't pay any money for it, right? So like now in 2019, I'm doing books, I'm doing books, I'm doing books. I don't really do much shoes anymore. I like the Amazon community a lot better. And I was like, all right, I'm gonna make a little bit less. I'm doing books rather than shoes on stockings and go cause I see Amazon's a bigger opportunity. And I like, like the people who do best in shoes, like they don't live the life that I want to live. They're like going to conventions, like. all over the place. They're partying. And then the Amazon guys are probably, honestly, in hindsight, making more money, but living a more calm life like I would kind of like to and everything. Speaker 2: Just like normal people. I think this is the first tweet I ever bookmarked because I just thought it was so funny. You know, you start selling on Amazon and next thing you know, you're on zoom at 1 a.m. with, uh, you know, a high school chick, a retired army vet and some kid who's in college, like halfway across the country, right? Like you're just with the most random mix of people, but everybody's cool and everybody's just like normal people, right? Speaker 1: Everything good in my life has come from random people on the internet. Speaker 2: Everything good. Speaker 1: Besides my family, every single thing good in my life currently. I had a bunch of cool stuff with basketball and everything. Everything good currently in my life came as a result of random people on the internet. So fall of 2019, I'm cooking along doing books. And then here's a good one here. So every now and again, I still have my personal IG page and I'm grinding the Flips4Miles one. Every now and again, I'll toss up a story on my personal Instagram page. Every now and again, I'll sprinkle one in. I don't really want people to know, but I'll sprinkle one in. The club stock chain's getting annoyed from me asking for all their textbooks and everything. And I get a DM from one Wi-Fi astronaut. I see you're selling books. That looks cool. I'd love for you to show me how something like that, but here's the thing. I already ordered the scanner. Now I've heard that 50 times already. Speaker 2: He's actually committed. Speaker 1: Exactly. So now Danny and I start grinding on books together. He actually gets a warehouse really quick. My biggest month ever with books is probably like 10K. In January of 2020, but then the problem is now COVID hits, right? So it's, it's really tough to get inventory. So I'm like, all right, back to what I know best, the shoe market's going crazy with the stimulus, right? So now, um, the shoe market's going crazy with the stimulus. So now I'm back doing shoes and everyone on like, so I get right back with my community, basically from shoes from back in the day. I still talk to him pretty much that whole time, but now I'm like seriously backing it. Right. And so, I'm not only focused on shoes though. I'm learning about the credit card rewards game. I'm learning about the selling on Amazon game. I'm learning about online arbitrage and everything too. Not just focused on shoes when all my shoe guys are only focused on shoes. So they're like flexing the BMW they just bought like with like gigantic piles of shoes and I'm like still doing My Amazon page, but it's mainly about shoes. I'm like taking videos with stuff. People like, dude, like, what are you doing? Like, why are you creating competition? Like, and, and looking back recently, that makes full, well, very well, good sense to say, right. But, um, the key is like some, some of the huge shoe guys, they start like hiring me in their discord to like run the credit card section to give tips on like how to get approved and the best bonuses and everything. Cause I just like, like learn that gram stuff and YouTube videos and everything. And I, they kind of knew I was a good guy cause they got to know me asymmetrically through my page and everything. And I'm in, I'm in the circles in the group chats a little bit, but they're making way more money than me by the way. That was big and now I joined the really expensive group. I might sell a lifetime membership for $1,000 here and there through IG, get some $500 free cash flow on the affiliate game so I'm not just making money through reselling shoes. I'm doing that and then also I start to learn about money Twitter at this point. I see Chris Johnson and some of the old school big money Twitter guys basically. I started getting on there and Twitter, especially back then, really started to open up my mind. It's like, damn, there's people making money with affiliate marketing. What's that? There's people making money with dropshipping. What's that? Right. There's people making money with an agency. What's that? So now I got, I'm reselling shoes, but I also got all this free time and I'm reading stuff on Twitter like crazy. I probably bought like 20 courses that year, but they're all like 15 bucks. Like people would do sales, people would sell you books. Yes. Stuff was so cheap back in the day. So I, uh, I actually, I start to look into selling Facebook ads as a service and I joined this dude's Facebook group and he sells Facebook ads to med spas and so I copied his offer, I copied the ads and everything because you can see what ads are run on Facebook ads library. So I started like selling some thousand bucks a month retainers and everything, started to get some free cash flow with that. Honestly put in a ton of time into that. Never really made more than like three grand a month profit with it. That's still pretty good for somebody who's 20. Yeah, and I'm in college full-time too. I'm doing college classes and everything. I'm making like five grand a month. I probably made like 50k in 2020 total profit, which is like, dude, I was like, all right. Speaker 2: As a college kid, again, that's a lot of money, like a lot for somebody who's in college. Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was more so it's like, all right, after this next semester, fall of 2020, I'm going to get all my time back too. Speaker 2: Right, because you graduate. Speaker 1: I was so hype when they canceled in-person classes because I was like, dude, it's over now. I just got to do online class. I can do the business stuff all day. So that's what I spent the winter of 2020 doing. And interestingly enough, dude, I probably made more money in Q4 of 2018 compared to Q4 of 2020. It was probably pretty close. Speaker 2: Really? Why is that though? Speaker 1: Well, just outlets were so lit back in the day, right? Speaker 2: Is that because fewer people were doing them? Speaker 1: Yeah, probably. I would say probably fewer people. And then there was this there was this Adidas outlet I would go to that no one would go to. It was in like a really small part of Pennsylvania that was super untapped. And I think that was a big component of it, too, as well. But probably the same or a little bit less. Right. Speaker 2: Right now. Speaker 1: So I finished college. Right. And major, major COVID lockdown due to family members being sick, basically. Right. And not so I'm like super chilling at the crib, never leaving the crib or anything like that. Basically, we have this good group chat of like couple Amazon guys, couple shoe guys, kind of all the guys that were building their personal brand or at least I would realize we're cool in the DMs and we just put a group chat together, all these young kids. I think it's actually still going. Really? Speaker 2: Are you still in it? Yeah. Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no. I just like kind of saw it as a distraction or at least I thought it was a distraction basically but it was all just like a free group of like all these young kids. I talked to a bunch of them still today. Like Carter Maxwell, he's a great guy. Wi-Fi Astronaut, obviously, too. Garrett, for sure. Cody MacArthur. A ton of guys, right? They're doing Amazon stuff. I think it was because I was never leaving the house. I just had time to be in so many groups and so many spaces. I think that was it. I'm talking to the Shoe Guys. I'm talking to the Amazon guys. I'm talking to a bunch of eBay resale guys. I start to see these guys popping off on Amazon like crazy. I'm like, damn, how are they doing that? What about the ungating thing? And then eventually, I see a tweet, how to get Nike ungated, a tweet, how to get beauty ungated, how to get toys ungated. I'm like, damn, dude, I still got my Amazon account. I'm selling one book every other day. Let me go and plug in. I have all these shoes sitting next to me. I have all these shoes sitting next to me. Let me plug in and see if I can get any of this stuff ungated, see if these guys are telling the truth. Boom, I do it. Right, and I list some Adidas shoes. I list some Under Armour shoes, some Nike stuff, right? And it's it's moving. I didn't even buy it for Amazon. So I don't know what the sales rank is. I have no idea how to read keep it in the closet. They're they're moving. They're not moving quick. But I just gotten out of college. I still had I had all this free time. I'm making three to five K a month profit with A bunch of things, affiliate, a little bit of agency stuff, shoe re-selling for sure, like very, very, very kind of spread. Speaker 2: A bunch of different things. Speaker 1: Yeah, a bunch of different stuff here, right? And so basically, do start selling some shoes here and there on Amazon. I don't know how to do anything but talk about what I'm doing on the internet. So now I'm posting about selling Legos on Amazon, selling shoes on Amazon. Your DM starts to fill up a little bit more because no one else posts on the internet. Let's be honest, very, very few people do. You go in any city in America, one out of a hundred people has the self-esteem to take a selfie video of them and post it on the internet. All the opportunity goes to the people that do for the most part. Close mouths, don't get fed in America. Right. Period. Opportunity goes to those who give themselves a chance to capture it. Right. And so, now, I'm starting to get a little bit more traction on IG. I probably got like 5k followers or so. Right. I'll get some comments on some pictures here and there and I'm watching some Gary Vee videos and he's like, how dare you not respond to every comment? I'm like, have I been responding to every one of my comments? And I look and I'm like, no. I'm like, oh crap. Okay, Gary, here you go. I'm not just gonna respond to every comment. I'm gonna message and introduce myself to them. That's probably not a bad idea. And guess who was that person on that same day, one of those comments? Gary. I love this story, right? And so I'm like, dude, like, and the key here too is Garrett gets to know me through my page. I go to Garrett's page immediately and I'm like, damn, this dude's shipping out pallets. How's he good enough to ship out pallets already? Right. He started his page a month ago or something like that. Speaker 2: Right. Speaker 1: And then we get on zoom. Maybe that day, Garrett's brother, and I'm like, hey, can my friend FBA Danny come too? He went to high school with me, I promise he's cool, right? And that's who Danny is, right? Wi-Fi now. And he just starts, like Garrett, blesses me. Like blesses me. He's shown me all this stuff that I had no idea how to do. Because I'm in my first month of OA by the way, right? Very, very new, right? And he just puts me on game left, right, center, boom, bang, all of it, right? So we make a group chat of me, Danny, Garrett, Garrett's brother, and our friend Jake too, who's a beast. You should totally have on as well. I mean, he's not behind the scenes, but he probably would, right? And so, I've been doing Instagram for two years in a row. I've been messing around, playing around with business stuff. I'm thinking 10K a month. I need it. There's some way I'm going to go ahead and do it. I'm writing it down in the journal. I've spent a ton of time watching YouTube videos of people talking about this stuff. And now it feels right. Do you like Amazon stuffs cooking? I literally, I'm pretty sure I didn't work on the agency a single day after I met Garrett. I'm pretty sure. Speaker 2: Why is it you shouldn't, right? You found what turned out to be a game changer of a connection. You just went deep with that person as you should. Speaker 1: The big thing too was it was fun. I was doing the agency stuff because I felt like I had to make money. I was selling shoes because I felt like I had to make money, although shoes was a little bit more fun, but Amazon is a blast, man. I'm pretty sure the first month I knew it, maybe the first week, Garrett FaceTimed me and woke me up and we bought a lead together. That was amazing, man. I love all those guys today, obviously, our whole friend group. I just found my calling basically with online arbitrage and then COVID gets a little bit better, start doing retail arbitrage as well. 6k rev first month, 30k rev second month, six grand in profit. I'm like, damn, man, all right. Maybe I'm not going to have to get a job after all. And then basically May of 21, I go on vacation and I'm doing all FBM at this time. And this is where, and my sales go to zero, right? Besides the occasional book, right? Because I can't ship anything out. I'm sourcing still though, right? And so I'm like, all right, man, now I got to start doing FBA. So I start doing FBA in June, 50k rev. 9K profit, I'm like, damn, I'm knocking on the door of that 10K a month profit, man. That's what all the guys on Twitter were telling me I had to get to, otherwise I was poor, right? And obviously that's not true, but you get the idea, right? That's what they were saying, I believe it, right? And then July of 2022, I do like 60K, but I'm buying heavy on stuff now. So I'm buying 100 balls, 200 balls of different stuff, and I'm making more money, but I'm not really putting in much more time, right? And I thought that was cool, right? Because you should buy heavier, right? But only when you have a proven system, right? Which was awesome and then basically so like yeah like that was that was really when I started putting all my focus and like all my arbitrage and books are completely different business models. I'll talk about online. My first year selling on Amazon did a million. My first year moving OA, that's so different than books. It's completely different. That first year, I do a million in sales, I think 1.02. Basically, I go to the first ever Miami Seller's Conference. It's the first time meeting all my boys in person. We pick up Werner from the airport. It's so fun, man. Oh my gosh. Right, but but I'm still mainly FBA at this or mainly FBM at this time, right? So I do the first two weeks of August like very, very low, very, very low sales, right? But I'm going to Amazon seller accounts and I'm like, I'm walking by all these people I see online. I'm like, That guy does a hundred K a month, right? Four million last year like like, you know, he's overweight or whatever. You know, I mean like yeah Nothing on me, right? He got nothing on me, right? He might just be a little bit older He might spin up been in the game a little bugger I remember one of the OG's in the space told me he made over a million dollars a year in profit I'll remember that day the rest of my life. I remember that day the rest of my life He was like I make over a million a year in profit. I was like, oh my god God, I was like, dude, I think I can hit 100k profit this year. And then that was in, I'd still only made like 40 grand year to date or something like that, like low, but like, you know, 10k here and there, probably like halfway to there. Right. And so I get back in the middle of August, back to school is kicking off. People are like talking about back to school. I'm like, like, I'm going to hit that hard. And then I turn on my listings and do like 10k in one day the first week back from back to school. Speaker 2: And I'm like- In profit you're saying or in revenue? Speaker 1: Oh, in sales, in sales. But like 2k in profit, right? Speaker 2: That's incredible. Again, especially being the age that you are too and like seeing that that's possible. Speaker 1: Oh, well, it was Miami Star Wars Conference showed me that, man. Miami Star Wars Conference, it showed me that like crazy. Right, so we get on and we're grinding. I'm running all over Eastern Pennsylvania doing pick-up orders. I'm going and doing pick-up orders at Dick's Sporting Goods, then driving to the post office and FBMing the products. They're not even coming to the crib, right? They're not even coming to the crib. And so I do like 100K in sales in just two weeks, that first back to school, because Miami's Salers Commons expanded my capabilities like crazy. I was like, dude, like, because you can go, you can just go do stuff. And that's what being an entrepreneur teaches you to do is that, like, You're holding you back. No one's breathing down your neck. There's some rules on Amazon. You gotta abide by them, obviously, but nothing's stopping you from going out and hitting every grocery aisle in your state. Except you, right? It would be pretty impossible to not make money doing, like, you can take violent action, man. You can go, you can go do stuff like crazy, right? Like a normal day for me now, like me three years ago, what it would have been terrified of. Like, damn, you're gonna do that many calls, you're gonna spend that much of whatever, right? You're gonna make, you're gonna get up, you're gonna make videos, like all that stuff. You're gonna have people helping you out with it, virtual assistants, all that. I would have seemed so overwhelmed, but this stuff teaches you what you're capable of, because not only Does being in the game more, it gives you more exposure. You also realize more what you're capable of. Your hourly rate grows, your hourly output rate grows, et cetera. So that first hundred K month taught me a ton. I made like 15 grand profit, a thousand bucks a day in profit for two weeks in a row averaged out. Right. And then back to school ends, FBM volume plummets, right? So I, bless you family, right? And then I feel like I haven't told any of these stories in so long. Speaker 2: No, I love it. This is so good because I feel like I haven't heard half of these before. So this is great. Speaker 1: Oh, okay, cool. All right, good, good. Okay, I'll keep rambling and everything. So yeah, so FBM volume plummets, right? And I'm like, all right, I got to start doing FBA seriously now. And you remember when storage capacity limits were a huge issue? Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember it was really when it first got bad. I think it was like March of 2020. And I remember vividly that being the month because we had just sent a huge shipment from one of the first brand direct account that we ever worked with straight to Amazon. And they literally shipped it out the day before Amazon hit us with the storage capacity limit. So we had already paid for the inventory. We'd already sent the labels, everything. We sent it out basically with 12 hours to spare before Amazon said, hey, we're slashing your limits. Anything that's inbound or anything that's already at Amazon is fine, but we couldn't send in any more for a while. So if it wasn't like for that timing, we would have been screwed. But yeah, I remember that very well. Speaker 1: Yeah. And so that sustained into 2021, like especially Q4 of 2021. And that still is a problem for some people every Q4, but you got to really be aggressively scaling for it to be an issue. And then so I switched back to FBA. I dip a little bit low for September. I think I do like 95 or something like that. And then October, relatively similar. And I remember I would reprice down just to sell stuff a little bit lower to get more storage slots available. And like every Monday, I would pray that my storage limits would go up. And every Monday, I think it was every Monday morning, it would refresh. And Warner, Gare, and I would all type, oh, I'm friends. Warner and I connect now too. He's all in the friend group, all in the Zoom calls, as are a bunch of other guys too. Awesome friend group, right? And then ironically, the cool thing is pretty much everyone's still in the game today, which makes it really fun as well, because everyone's grown. There's so much trust. We're working on these different projects together to sell our ant box and everything, right? And then so November hits and I'm still I'm hobbling along, filling up these storage slots FBA, but now the FBM machine turns on again. So, I start going crazy once again on the pickup orders and do like 220k in sales, so like 35 grand profit, which was awesome. And then Black Friday hits and I remember calling Dylan Sawyer. He's actually one of my best friends now in person in Miami. When he was like 15, he did 70k in one day on Black Friday. I did like 20 and I'm like, damn, I thought I was doing something. Speaker 2: Meanwhile, he didn't even have his permit, much less his license. Speaker 1: Oh, see, nothing, right? Yeah, I think in Georgia you could have, I don't remember, but regardless. And then so we just, Soar is in the friend group. We're all sourcing Legos and stuff together. And then December, I do like $300,000 and like $55,000 profit and we get a warehouse together in Delaware with Garrett. And start the Bobox Bandits and it's kind of been the rest is history since then. But that was like the kind of key component that I see with all of this is like my biggest takeaway is that you just cannot solely rely on the people you just happen to be, happen to find in real life, right? You can't limit yourself to that. You have to find people online. You just have to take advantage of it because you're competing against people like Corey, who's giving himself tons of exposure to people on the internet. If you're someone that's only getting like only getting exposed to people in your local environment, you're just at such a disadvantage, right? That I just got so much free help over the years by being available to get it. By being in the mix, right? By doing my best to have a seat at the table, right? Yeah, right. Exactly. Right. And that like, you know, I mean, you know this really well now, you know, if someone slides into your DMs, you look at their profile. First thing, right. And that could be for better or worse. That's how it is. Right. And so the person who's anonymous and has seven pictures and their private profile and their, uh, they have something about weed in their bio, they get a worse response than 19 year old Flips4Miles does. Every single time, especially because you're right. Speaker 2: It's like the, well, really the first thing I look at is the question, right? First thing I look at is the question. And if the question isn't completely brain dead, then maybe I will click through to their profile, right? The issue is a lot of times the question is, Hey, how do I start? And then it's like, I'm not even going to take the time to click on this guy's profile because he hasn't even put in the bare minimum level of effort required to perform a Google search. Right. So I mean, what you're saying is completely true. And also like you talk about meeting random people on the Internet. Miles, guess how many calls I've had today? It's 4.45 p.m. on a Monday with random people on the Internet. This is a first time networking meeting. Today, how many have I had today? Speaker 1: Four to five. Speaker 2: I have seven and I have one more at 7 p.m. So today, just Monday, eight total calls with complete strangers that I've never met before in my entire life because I want to build more connections and break into a new industry and collaborate with other people. You're right, it doesn't matter if they're If you're not here locally or if you don't really know him, it's all about putting yourself out there. And a lot of times, like you said, you just got to ask and you can get in the room. And Miles, one point that has kind of been the recurring theme of like everything that you've talked about so far over the course of this podcast, like the recurring theme with you and your life. And I think one of the reasons why you've been... Well, probably the main reason you've been the most successful is just complete Complete lack of hesitation around taking action. And that was so clear from even the beginning of the story. You're like, it's 2010. I find a YouTube video about Legos. 48 hours later, I posted my first YouTube video talking about Legos. If that's not just action taking to the next level, I don't know what is. Same thing with When you start getting into shoes, oh yeah, I started an Instagram for two years straight and now I guess it's been six years straight. You've been posting about what you're doing and documenting and talking about everything that you're doing. I mean, that's really what it takes. Being hesitant, you know, not hesitating at all. And a couple of the people, for example, that I've talked to today as part of those networking calls, I could tell they're newer to business. They're like, well, yeah, I've been taking so-and-so's course for the last three months, and I'm kind of just now starting to jump in. And those people just aren't going to win, right? Like, it's usually pretty easy for us to tell within a couple of seconds whether somebody's cut out for business or whether they're not. And the most defining feature is, yeah, how quickly are they taking action? Or are they someone who's going to sit around and think they need to take the next course before they are finally ready? So I think there's so much to learn from your story and I love it. Now that brings us into March of 2025, where you take the last six years of that effort that you put in and it's compounded to the tune of You've got about 100,000 followers on Instagram. You've got about, last I looked, I think 60-something thousand on Twitter. On YouTube, you're approaching, I think, 85,000 subs. Where are you on TikTok? How big is the TikTok audience? Speaker 1: Dude, I love TikTok for the discoverability of the live streams, but probably maybe 3,000 or 4,000. I don't know, but people show up to the live streams and they ask good questions, so I'm happy to have it on while I'm solo streaming. On YouTube as well. Speaker 2: But then the takeaway there for me, right? I mean, like you said, you've been building an audience on social media for six years. And, you know, some people would say like, oh, you just now hit 100k, right? When in reality, people get six months into posting and they're like, why don't I have a million followers? Right. And it's like, well, because you haven't either provided enough value or you're just not good enough yet. Right. But you've been giving, giving, giving for so long. That's why when people have questions or they think of online arbitrage, you're usually the first person that comes to mind. You are Warner, as far as I can tell. So that's just a good testament to like building that brand over time, hitting it hard every day, like not taking days off. That's one thing that I know you don't do. Like how many days in a row at this point have you written a Twitter thread without missing a day? What's your streak? Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll probably stop soon, but I like it as just like it keeps me kind of making sure I'm doing stuff every day, but like almost three years actually. Like almost three years and some are better than others obviously, but I just think personally like for me it's just so much easier to do something every day rather than like three times a week. Speaker 2: Part of the day, yeah. Speaker 1: I don't know why. That could be a character flaw for that matter too. It just kind of is what it is. Speaker 2: So you've said you've written a thread every single day for over three years on Twitter, haven't missed a day. Speaker 1: Haven't missed a day. And sometimes I will post it at like 11.50 though, for example. Speaker 2: You will, because you'll send it to the group chat and it'll be like no days off and it's like 11.50pm. Speaker 1: Yeah, never, never, never. I'm not missing that. And so the cool thing is that actually came from this This group that I joined, these guys called Client Ascension on Twitter actually. I learned a ton from those guys over the years. But I was in their group and they're phenomenal by the way too. It's mainly for B2B people but I kind of joined it for more like info marketing side of things. And so I joined their group and they had this challenge. I forget what you got honestly. I think it was just like kind of gamifying the program basically. And it was do one Twitter thread a day. And I think like four or five people made it, a bunch of people started it. But one of the other guys that made it the whole way has like a massive personal brand in the e-com space actually too, not on Amazon as much. But it was pretty cool how like, I think that was kind of his jumpstart too for taking things a little bit more seriously. And that's how I, that's how I built my Twitter. Speaker 2: I mean, we, you know, when I started and I can certainly tell the story of how I got started on Twitter and how I met you, but I mean, that's really how I built the bulk of my following on Twitter was every day for, I think I did like 400 something days straight, a thread for that long. And back when I was actually, it's crazy. I was looking at my analytics. I went into TweetHunter and I was looking at my Twitter analytics and back it was like, End of 20, or no, it was, sorry, beginning of 2020, or sorry, mid 2023, late 2023, for whatever reason, I don't know if Amazon was just really popular at the time or if the algorithm was just favoring us or what, but there was one point where every single thread You and I posted, it was like, if it got less than 100 likes, it was a bad thread. Speaker 1: I'll put everyone on some game on when that happens. Speaker 2: But it's crazy because I looked at the analytics, Miles, I swear to God, there was like a literal like breaking point, like drop off. It was like I was getting 20 to 30 new followers a day consistently every day for like 100 days straight. And then it's like it fell off a cliff. It had to be an algorithm change because this was like, It was like something shifted, right? And nothing changed about what we were writing about. We were still doing a thread a day, all this stuff. But what's your opinion, like what are your thoughts? You said you're about to, you had an inflection point that you noticed? Speaker 1: Yeah, well, so for a game for anyone who wants to make content, the most important days of the year for making content are the week after Christmas. Speaker 2: Yeah, we had some thread, I remember specifically some like- We were going crazy then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I remember at my mom's house, I was sitting in my mom's house like, Upstairs in my old room, like on the laptop, yeah, it's like 10 p.m. and I'm like, fuck, I gotta write a thread today, I can't forget. And I remember I kind of like half-assed it and it was some, actually I think one in particular I remember was over like Thanksgiving break and it was just a whole thread of just all my lead magnets. It was just one big self-promotion like, here's all my free resources. But it got like 150,000 impressions, like 300, like it popped off, like I couldn't believe it. I'm like, what? It was something about the algorithm at the time was just either loving us or loving Amazon, but that was just a fun time. And yeah, I mean, writing is such a good skill to learn too, especially if you want to build your brand. I feel like some people are better on video, some people are better writers, but Find the strength, whichever one you're better at, and kind of lean into that. Speaker 1: And you become it, you know, through iteration and repetition. Anyone can feel free to scroll back to 2019 on my Instagram. You will see a very different person on camera. Very, very different person on camera. Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean me too. Go look at my YouTube right from beginning of 2023. I was super monotone. I was super, I mean, I still, you know, I'm not the best, but I'm getting so much better. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Yeah. I've gotten so much better. So it's just like anything. It's a skill, you know, you practice it, you get better over time, all this stuff. Speaker 1: Yeah, bro. College is four years for a reason. College is four years for a reason, right? I'm like seen as some like guru guy when I'll scream from the heavens about how you have to do this for a while to be successful at it. You have to, Most of the time, you have to work with like-minded people to do it. You can't expect them to work quick, right? It's something you commit to for the long term, right? If your goal was to be an unsuccessful Amazon seller, I would hang out with no Amazon sellers. I would do it for a month and expect to be really successful. I would be shocked when I got denied for ungates. And I would try to do wholesale or private label from day one. You know what I mean? And I definitely would only rely on the people in my life that have gotten me to this far, which statistically zero of them are interested in selling on Amazon. And I would definitely not find cool people to work with for free. Speaker 2: Any other words of wisdom there? Speaker 1: Yeah, it would become pretty unreasonable that you wouldn't, you know, make some progress on your goals and everything too. And that I would say is like not just for Amazon or anything like that. It's just like life in general in 2025, man. Don't rely on the people in real life. Don't choose to solely rely on the people in real life. Like there's people out there all day on the internet. You can find a niche community for anything, right? And connect with people over stuff, right? And it's literally every single day now since I moved to Miami, I'll hang out with people from Twitter and hang out with people from Instagram and it's really a blast because they're so much more tailored. A lot of people have convenience friends and the more you get online, the less that you have and that just helps you move quicker with different projects and make progress to your goals faster because you tend to be hanging out with people that either have what you want or want what you want and the people in your life determine the results you get. I firmly believe that. Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's the quote, right? That everybody's heard a million times. It's super cliche, but it's true. You're the average of the five people you spend the most time with. I'm sure we have a lot of Amazon sellers listening, and I've said this before to kind of tailor that quote to the Amazon space. Your Amazon sales are the average of the five sellers you spend the most time with. I mean, it's a fact, right? Speaker 1: Oh, man. Speaker 2: That's a tweet right there. Go ahead and steal that. Speaker 1: Most people listening to this, I've never talked on their Amazon site. Another Amazon seller has never seen your face. Another Amazon seller has never heard your voice. That's not necessarily a bad thing. You're just going to struggle compared to the people that are doing that. That's an uncomfortable thing. Making money is an uncomfortable thing too. We can all agree that the kid in high school that hung out with the most basketball players compared to the kid that hung out with the least basketball players, the kid who hung out the most was better at basketball. He had a seat at the table. He was getting plugged in on different tips. He was getting plugged in on different opportunities, right? And it's the same thing with selling on Amazon, right? And that the guy who's in the group chat He gets plugged in on the restocks. He gets plugged in on the nuances. He knows what sites order cancel in advance. He knows he might get plugged in on a wholesale opportunity quicker. It's just the reality of things and that's a very empowering thing because what we have to understand or at least really believe in is that business models don't fail. People fail, right? Business models don't succeed. People succeed. And that is not my quote whatsoever, by the way, but I really, really believe in it. I really, really believe in it. And that's an Empower thing. It's not that it didn't work for you. You didn't work on it. If you did it for 10 years, it would probably work really, really well. Speaker 2: Exactly. Speaker 1: It's cool. You're absolutely right on the whole algorithm side of things. The algorithm was liking Amazon content a lot better a year and a half, two years ago, but if you stick around, you'll be in it when the algorithm likes Amazon content more and you'll be better too. You'll do it more because you realized how easy it was when it was easy. Speaker 2: Now, all very good points. And talking about the business model doesn't fail, the person does. I mean, it's spot on. We see it all the time. I mean, there are people out there we know that are still dropshipping. And I would argue that dropshipping is a terrible business model, but there's some really smart people who do it. And therefore, they do it well, right? They make a lot of money doing it. I mean, if you've got the skill set, It doesn't really matter what it is that you do, just do something. And then you can always graduate over time. If at one point you decide, oh, well, maybe this business model, or maybe this particular thing I've been doing for a while, isn't the best use of my time anymore. Now I'm going to go do something else. Well, you're probably going to be successful doing that other thing because of everything that you learned during the first thing, right? So much to learn from that. Very good, wise words from, you know, still a guy who's in his young 20s, but he's been around the block in terms of business long, honestly longer than most and significantly more successful than most entrepreneurs ever will be too. Speaker 1: So yeah, another, another point on like the business model hopping thing is that like, I would love to see the statistics, sorry to interrupt, but I would love to see the statistics on like, The average of someone who makes it to like year three of having a business, like how long they end up being an entrepreneur for and how many different businesses they have over time, to the same statistic of like someone who has a job, right? Because a problem a lot of people run into when they start like retail arbitrage, for example, is like the people in their life that statistically most likely have jobs and there's nothing wrong with that whatsoever. Right? But they see it, they're like, they kind of equate it more to like something that you just do and it's just kind of like what you do, right? And not something that you allow to consume your life, which is a great thing when you're a business owner because you make progress a lot quicker. And they also equate it that it's something you're going to do for a while. And then I'll make it very clear, like no one should do retail arbitrage forever. Speaker 2: I agree. Speaker 1: There's Amazon business models, Online Arbitrage, Wholesale, Pride Label that are significantly better, but they also take significantly more money. They also have more risk in the term of Wholesale and Pride Label. Speaker 2: It's harder to learn. Higher learning curve. Yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah. Facts, right? I don't think people should start with Pride Label, but I think a lot of people should finish with Pride Label. I think software is awesome too. We do software with sell ramp and boxing, but I think it's a great business model, but I think If you're someone on day one of doing business, it's a horrible idea for them to start something. You need a bunch of money, someone who knows how to code, multiple people who know how to code, a whole bunch of different connection stuff. I wouldn't have told you, even when I graduated college, literally about a year and a half later, I have partial ownership of Selleramp. I remember when we announced that, which was almost three years ago at this point. All of that, Warner and I got that opportunity because we gave ourselves the chance to. Now we have the opportunity to box them as well and show people and create a good listing tool for people. We're adding analytics and everything too. All that came from just having a chance and just having a seat at the table. What I love about having learned and seeing people do the same after me is that You don't get that seat at the table. No one wakes up with 10,000 followers, right? You decide to take that seat at the table by taking the first step, by innovating, by building momentum, by having pattern recognition. When I yelled at you to start doing Twitter, not just LinkedIn, I would fully say that you made the decision to become an authority in the Amazon space on Twitter. No one else posts as much as you did. No one else is still posting as much as you did about it. You make that decision. I love how all these young guys decide to post a lot on Twitter and then they find people and then they get ad to the group chats or whatever. It makes this a really, really positive, fun thing because human beings do things that we enjoy. We enjoy things we do with people we like. So don't start selling on Amazon. Think that you'll enjoy it. Think that you'll be really good at it fast without anyone that does it in your life and that all costs no money. Right, 100%. Speaker 2: Well, I've said that before too. I mean, that's how I really got started to get established in the space is the whole first five years that I was selling on Amazon. I didn't know any other sellers. I couldn't name a single one. But it wasn't until, like you said, I met you, I started getting active on Twitter, met Garrett, started hanging out with other Amazon sellers. Yeah, exactly. Trajectory was hockey stick. I mean, business really exploded from there. And best decision I ever made. So I think the main takeaway for people as we wrap this up is it doesn't really matter what business you're in, whether it's selling on Amazon, whether it's Dropshipping, e-commerce, sneakers, whatever, just find that group of people that's already doing what it is that you want to do. And kind of the way that I like to look at it is find that group of people that are doing the thing that you want to do at a level that you think is out of reach, but is normal to them, right? So if for you, if your big goal right now is I want to make 10K a month in profit selling on Amazon, Then go find two or three or five people who already make 10k a month in profit on Amazon, where to them it's completely normal. It's like, well, yeah, if I didn't make 10k this month, it would be like a disaster, right? Like those are the kind of people you want to find and you want to hang out with. And I know the objection a lot of people have is, well, why would they want to hang out with me? I'm new or I don't have any value to provide. And that's not necessarily true because there's always something that you have that will be of value to that person. A lot of times the value for you is finding out what that is, right? A lot of times you have to do some digging and meet that person and connect with them and figure out what it really is that you can bring to the table. And sometimes it's just a listening ear, right? Like sometimes it's literally just being able to talk to them and have a conversation. So yeah, find that group of people and You'll really take off, you'll really explode. Speaker 1: Yeah, and dude, I was just around. I just happened to be one of the icons that popped up on 2020 on Amazon Instagram and reselling Instagram in 2019. I was just around. There were so few people that were just in the conversation, that were commenting on stuff, that you could go to their page and learn what they were doing, what they're about, what they're messing up, what was working for me, what wasn't working for me and everything. So that just kind of like introduced me to shit and everything and it made it really, really fun too, which was awesome as well here too. Very, very good thing. I just realized we're past 5 p.m. too. Speaker 2: We are, yeah. So for the audience here, me and Miles do every Monday, we do a live stream over on YouTube. We call it Money Monday. Me, Miles, Warner Fields, otherwise known as Fields of Profit, and then our buddy Garrett, we all hang out on YouTube on Monday nights and do just a Q&A for Amazon sellers. We're running late to that. We're going to go jump over to that. Miles, before we do, man, what do you want to plug? Where can people find you? Do you want to talk about Boxum? Do you want to talk about SellerAmp? Now's your time. Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, so a couple good free resources for you guys. So I'm super active on all socials at Flips4Miles. My DMs are open for any questions. We do the live streams like Corey was mentioning too. I have an eight hour free course on YouTube. That's where I would start if you want to learn like online arbitrage, retail arbitrage. Just search Flips4Miles 8-hour for that. And then, yeah, we have SellerAmp, which is a profit calculator for online retail arbitrage and wholesale, which calculates your exact profit, fees, et cetera, helps you find products. And then Boxum is for listing stuff on Amazon, shipping stuff to the Amazon warehouse, knowing all your numbers, restocking. We have a bunch of cool analytics features coming out soon too as well. Both of those you can get free trials on SellerAmp.com and Boxum.com as well. So it's a lot of fun. Speaker 2: We'll have links to all those tools and all those resources in the description below or in the show notes if you're watching on Apple or Spotify. At least to my knowledge, this is the most in-depth Flips4Miles origin story that I've ever heard, probably that's out there on the internet in general. So if you enjoyed this conversation with Miles, leave us a five-star review if you're listening on Apple or Spotify. If you're listening over on YouTube, be sure to give the video a thumbs up. Miles, thank you so much for your time and we will chat soon, man. Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a blast. Thank you so much and thanks to everyone for listening as well. It's a lot of fun and I hope I helped you guys out today.